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Re: Was: Re: help needed (now usenet language discussion)

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From: Michele Goff
Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 00:00
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Dear Morceaux,

There's no need for apology.  English is my native language.  I
responded from alt.support.grief.  Jacky understands several
languages and I didn't mean to intrude.  My first thought was
that perhaps you had lost someone and my French is so rusty,
that I knew I couldn't be helpful.  I really didn't mean to intrude.
I tried to email you at your Rhydent addy, but it bounced, so,
out of concern only, I posted that post.  Again, I apologize for my
blunder.  Thank you for your gracious response to me.  You
are most kind and I apologize, once more, to the both of you.

Michele

On Sun, 07 May 2000 22:46:20 GMT, morceaux@integrant.2ndmail.com (les
morceaux) wrote:

>Salut Michelle and all,
>
>I must first apologize for responding to this particular part of 
>the thread in all of the original newsgroups, but I cannot be sure
>which newsgroup Michele is posting from and I wanted to assure she
>saw what I had to say.  I am posting from alt.support.trauma-ptsd.
>
>After Rhydent posted a response to Jacky en Francais, Michelle 
>politely asked hir... 
>
>>En Anglais, s'il vous plait?  Nous parlons en Anglais.
>>
>>Merci,
>
>Which translated to English means, "In English please?  We speak
>English here.  Thank you."
>
>I should qualify.  I do not speak any language other than American 
>English.  I am currently studying French, but I am by no means 
>within YEARS of being fluent, and I suspect that while I may 
>someday be able to write fluently in French, I rather doubt that I
>will ever be able to speak it well because I have a hearing 
>disability which exacerbates my inability to pronounce many of the
>common sounds en Francais and my accent is and may always be too 
>horrible for words in any language other than my own.
>
>That being said...
>
>Because my Usenet nick is French, there have been a few times when 
>some kind soul has responded to my posts en Francais, and such 
>kindness on the part of a fellow human towards me has always 
>brought tears to my eyes.  The assumption they make is incorrect--
>that English is not my milk tongue-- but it is an act of the 
>sweetest charity for someone to respond to me in the language they 
>believe is my own, to speak to me in words they think will be 
>easier for me to understand.
>
>The net is a worldwide culture.  Here, for the first time, we have
>a true melting pot.  I believe it is wrong to request than anyone
>use *any* specific language here.  When I see a post in a language
>other than English, if no one responds to it within a day or two,
>I drag up my babelfish translator and post a translation of their
>post, and a response in both English and the original language, 
>with apologies for my poor grammar.  I would like to see others do 
>the same.  English may be a common tongue worldwide, but so is 
>French, and so is Spanish, and so is Japanese becoming... and 
>while this melting pot we call the net is primarily English, there
>is no reason that it should be exclusively English.  To make it so
>would deny those billions of humans on the planet who do *not* 
>speak English access to this culture, and personally, I am not 
>willing to do that.
>
>Michelle, s'il vous plait ne se sentent pas que je vous attaque 
>avec cette lettre.  Votre lettre a Rhydent etait tres aimable et 
>vous ne meritez pas d'etre punis pour lui.  Mais comprenez que 
>beaucoup ne parlent pas anglais, et faites de la place s'il vous 
>plaet pour que ces gens se regalent egalement e notre table. 
>Pardonnez-moi pour mon francais faible, et merci de l'audition ce
>que j'ai du dire. 
>
>morceaux
>-- 
>She stared people down and appeared remorseless because the only 
>choices she knew were predator or victim.
>                             --Shankar Vedantam
>--
>My mind is a bad neighborhood. I try not to go there alone.
>                             --Unknown
>--
>The best thing about my childhood is it's over. The worst thing
>about it is I'm not over it.
>                             --Bailey Trebble
>
>
>
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From: arianne@HiWAAY.net (Michele Goff)
Subject: Re: Was: Re: help needed (now usenet language discussion)
Date: 2000/05/08
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