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Article #19Re: Was: Re: help needed (now usenet language discussion)
From: Michele Goff
Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 00:00
Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 00:00
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Dear Morceaux, There's no need for apology. English is my native language. I responded from alt.support.grief. Jacky understands several languages and I didn't mean to intrude. My first thought was that perhaps you had lost someone and my French is so rusty, that I knew I couldn't be helpful. I really didn't mean to intrude. I tried to email you at your Rhydent addy, but it bounced, so, out of concern only, I posted that post. Again, I apologize for my blunder. Thank you for your gracious response to me. You are most kind and I apologize, once more, to the both of you. Michele On Sun, 07 May 2000 22:46:20 GMT, morceaux@integrant.2ndmail.com (les morceaux) wrote: >Salut Michelle and all, > >I must first apologize for responding to this particular part of >the thread in all of the original newsgroups, but I cannot be sure >which newsgroup Michele is posting from and I wanted to assure she >saw what I had to say. I am posting from alt.support.trauma-ptsd. > >After Rhydent posted a response to Jacky en Francais, Michelle >politely asked hir... > >>En Anglais, s'il vous plait? Nous parlons en Anglais. >> >>Merci, > >Which translated to English means, "In English please? We speak >English here. Thank you." > >I should qualify. I do not speak any language other than American >English. I am currently studying French, but I am by no means >within YEARS of being fluent, and I suspect that while I may >someday be able to write fluently in French, I rather doubt that I >will ever be able to speak it well because I have a hearing >disability which exacerbates my inability to pronounce many of the >common sounds en Francais and my accent is and may always be too >horrible for words in any language other than my own. > >That being said... > >Because my Usenet nick is French, there have been a few times when >some kind soul has responded to my posts en Francais, and such >kindness on the part of a fellow human towards me has always >brought tears to my eyes. The assumption they make is incorrect-- >that English is not my milk tongue-- but it is an act of the >sweetest charity for someone to respond to me in the language they >believe is my own, to speak to me in words they think will be >easier for me to understand. > >The net is a worldwide culture. Here, for the first time, we have >a true melting pot. I believe it is wrong to request than anyone >use *any* specific language here. When I see a post in a language >other than English, if no one responds to it within a day or two, >I drag up my babelfish translator and post a translation of their >post, and a response in both English and the original language, >with apologies for my poor grammar. I would like to see others do >the same. English may be a common tongue worldwide, but so is >French, and so is Spanish, and so is Japanese becoming... and >while this melting pot we call the net is primarily English, there >is no reason that it should be exclusively English. To make it so >would deny those billions of humans on the planet who do *not* >speak English access to this culture, and personally, I am not >willing to do that. > >Michelle, s'il vous plait ne se sentent pas que je vous attaque >avec cette lettre. Votre lettre a Rhydent etait tres aimable et >vous ne meritez pas d'etre punis pour lui. Mais comprenez que >beaucoup ne parlent pas anglais, et faites de la place s'il vous >plaet pour que ces gens se regalent egalement e notre table. >Pardonnez-moi pour mon francais faible, et merci de l'audition ce >que j'ai du dire. > >morceaux >-- >She stared people down and appeared remorseless because the only >choices she knew were predator or victim. > --Shankar Vedantam >-- >My mind is a bad neighborhood. I try not to go there alone. > --Unknown >-- >The best thing about my childhood is it's over. The worst thing >about it is I'm not over it. > --Bailey Trebble > > >
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fab66,9f03058b97c55501 X-Google-Attributes: gidfab66,public X-Google-Thread: fe850,9f03058b97c55501 X-Google-Attributes: gidfe850,public X-Google-Thread: 105792,9f03058b97c55501 X-Google-Attributes: gid105792,public X-Google-Thread: 1093e9,9f03058b97c55501 X-Google-Attributes: gid1093e9,public X-Google-Thread: 1070c2,9f03058b97c55501 X-Google-Attributes: gid1070c2,public From: arianne@HiWAAY.net (Michele Goff) Subject: Re: Was: Re: help needed (now usenet language discussion) Date: 2000/05/08 Message-ID: <3916036a.16378179@news.HiWAAY.net> X-Deja-AN: 620491741 References: <eBeQ4.10251$rR2.1190893@nnrp3.clara.net> <3915AD4C.B1CD58CA@large.com> <3915b4fe.20539771@news.HiWAAY.net> <0nmR4.6066$Lx.802505@news-west.usenetserver.com> X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Complaints-To: support@usenetserver.com Organization: WebUseNet Corp http://www.usenetserver.com - Home of the fastest NNTP servers on the Net. Reply-To: arianne@HiWAAY.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 20:14:33 EDT Newsgroups: alt.support.grief,alt.support.trauma-ptsd,cl.gesundheit.allgemein,de.sci.medizin.psychiatrie,de.sci.psychologie