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Re: Re: help needed (now usenet language discussion)

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From: JMP
Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 00:00
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Hi,

Thanks for making this particular thing clear. As a French female, and
having said in my mail that an answer
could be given either in French, German, and/or English, i did not
understand Michelle's reaction.

I have exactly the same opinion as you have about the net. Let us share as
much as possible. If some of us
are able to speak several languages, it is OK, if not, let us try, as YOU
do, our best, so that as many persons
as possible may have a piece of this wonderful cake.

Thanks and peace be with you all
Jacky

les morceaux <morceaux@integrant.2ndmail.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
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> Salut Michelle and all,
>
> I must first apologize for responding to this particular part of
> the thread in all of the original newsgroups, but I cannot be sure
> which newsgroup Michele is posting from and I wanted to assure she
> saw what I had to say.  I am posting from alt.support.trauma-ptsd.
>
> After Rhydent posted a response to Jacky en Francais, Michelle
> politely asked hir...
>
> >En Anglais, s'il vous plait?  Nous parlons en Anglais.
> >
> >Merci,
>
> Which translated to English means, "In English please?  We speak
> English here.  Thank you."
>
> I should qualify.  I do not speak any language other than American
> English.  I am currently studying French, but I am by no means
> within YEARS of being fluent, and I suspect that while I may
> someday be able to write fluently in French, I rather doubt that I
> will ever be able to speak it well because I have a hearing
> disability which exacerbates my inability to pronounce many of the
> common sounds en Francais and my accent is and may always be too
> horrible for words in any language other than my own.
>
> That being said...
>
> Because my Usenet nick is French, there have been a few times when
> some kind soul has responded to my posts en Francais, and such
> kindness on the part of a fellow human towards me has always
> brought tears to my eyes.  The assumption they make is incorrect--
> that English is not my milk tongue-- but it is an act of the
> sweetest charity for someone to respond to me in the language they
> believe is my own, to speak to me in words they think will be
> easier for me to understand.
>
> The net is a worldwide culture.  Here, for the first time, we have
> a true melting pot.  I believe it is wrong to request than anyone
> use *any* specific language here.  When I see a post in a language
> other than English, if no one responds to it within a day or two,
> I drag up my babelfish translator and post a translation of their
> post, and a response in both English and the original language,
> with apologies for my poor grammar.  I would like to see others do
> the same.  English may be a common tongue worldwide, but so is
> French, and so is Spanish, and so is Japanese becoming... and
> while this melting pot we call the net is primarily English, there
> is no reason that it should be exclusively English.  To make it so
> would deny those billions of humans on the planet who do *not*
> speak English access to this culture, and personally, I am not
> willing to do that.
>
> Michelle, s'il vous plait ne se sentent pas que je vous attaque
> avec cette lettre.  Votre lettre a Rhydent etait tres aimable et
> vous ne meritez pas d'etre punis pour lui.  Mais comprenez que
> beaucoup ne parlent pas anglais, et faites de la place s'il vous
> plaet pour que ces gens se regalent egalement e notre table.
> Pardonnez-moi pour mon francais faible, et merci de l'audition ce
> que j'ai du dire.
>
> morceaux
> --
> She stared people down and appeared remorseless because the only
> choices she knew were predator or victim.
>                              --Shankar Vedantam
> --
> My mind is a bad neighborhood. I try not to go there alone.
>                              --Unknown
> --
> The best thing about my childhood is it's over. The worst thing
> about it is I'm not over it.
>                              --Bailey Trebble
>
>
>
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From: "JMP" <pastelle@freesurf.fr>
Subject: Re: Re: help needed (now usenet language discussion)
Date: 2000/05/08
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