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Dave Thank You for responding.
I am very glad to have had the opportunity of reading your web pages.

I find myself striking out at things I do not understand.   I then do not
understand why I am striking out.  I was reading this newsgroup in hopes of
finding some answers.  When Steve offered the Jenson's site I was
fascinated.  I have spent close to an hour each of two tries to find some
sense in the site.  I was exhausted by the way it is presented.  What I read
came across like a children's fable.  The experience  may have great value
for those involved.  My visit to the site only added to  my frustration.
How ever great personal benefit has come from Daves responding  to this
discussion.

Had he not had something to say I may not have found his web pages.

Having just finished reading Daves Web pages I feel like I just read my own
story.

I have not per sued a diagnoses.

How ever I am, as they say clean and sober.  Knowing that I am not alone in
feeling that the world forgot to leave a place in it for some one that is
different does help.
My fourth wife is deaf and is very understanding of my trials. We work
togeather to enjoy our world and go hand in hand when we have to face
anything else.

Dave, Thanks Again

"CyberFox" <madman@gohip.com> wrote in message
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> "Dave Spicer" <dspicer@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:k8ubmskkpdtha68og1999mbng4b51mfjlk@4ax.com...
> > (crossposted to all four groups although I only read
> > bit.listserv.autism)
> >
> > On Wed, 05 Jul 2000 12:01:11 -0400, Ted Rosenberg
> > <Tedrosenberg@iname.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Did you READ that piece of tripe, I thought I would split my sides
> laughing.  I
> > >can't imagine anyone is stupid enough to actually BELIEVE any of it.
> >
> > The primary definition of "tripe" refers to it as a food.  It's not to
> > everyone's taste - its secondary definition likely came about from the
> > common practice of ridiculing that which the majority does not
> > like/appreciate/understand - but it is nourishing nonetheless, and of
> > real value to some.
> >
> > The site in question seems to describe a way of looking at things
> > which works for its authors.  I am autistic, and much (but not all) of
> > it seemed sensible to me, although I strongly disagree that Avril is
> > somehow *the* spokesperson/interpreter for all autistic folks.  If she
> > and I happen to say some of the same things, this does not mean that
> > she speaks *for* me.  The concept of someone being the "one true
> > messenger" has IMO caused untold suffering, and it just doesn't seem
> > to me to work very well, so I don't subscribe to it.
> >
> > As a tool for gaining understanding or sharing one's thoughts/ideas,
> > derision seems awfully weak to me.  I've learned that if I am angry
> > there is always another emotion behind/underneath the anger, and that
> > the situation won't be resolved until I deal with it.  Maybe the same
> > holds true of derision - that unless what is behind the derision is
> > brought out, all that results is useless posturing/namecalling.
> > Ridiculing others doesn't seem very productive toward learning *or*
> > teaching anything...
> >
> > - Dave http://webpages.charter.net/dspicer
>
>