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JCT: I keep being asked why I don't give it up. Why I don't 
quit beating up on Alan Young, Marc Emery and their boy 
Boris St-Maurice. What's the purpose? What's the gain? 

Yesterday I got a call that explained the advantages of 
continued beating on the opponents. CBC.ca Vanvoucer called 
to do an interview on.... Marc Emery. 

Marc's running for mayor of Vancouver and in searching the 
net for his name, the reporter said my name kept popping up. 
So I took half an hour to explain how Alan Young had 
sabotaged Terry Parker's motion to invalidate the law and 
how a whole bunch of Canadian rats popped out of the 
woodwork to support his blocking Turmel. 

I explained how he'd been embarrassed by the straw poll 
where I got more than 4 times move votes than him for the 
leadership of the Marijuana Party and which he then deleted 
so I couldn't claim those proxy votes at the convention. 

The reporter had read it all and wanted to know what I was 
doing. I asked if he knew about the upcoming July 9 meeting 
where Marc Emery is supposed to be speaking. Yes, he was 
aware of it. I told him about Emery calling the world-wide 
successful LETS anti-poverty system "funny money" and that 
there would be people at the meeting to brace him on his 
economic non-sense, his censorship, and his foul mouth in 
public. 

>Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 23:20:12 -0400
>From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: An Event In Vancouver in July 2002
>To: turmel@freenet.carleton.ca 
John - for your information... 

The War on Freedom: Have We Lost Our Rights?
Featuring:
Stephen Easton, Fraser Institute
And
******* Marc Emery, Vancouver Mayoral Candidate ********
And
Vin Suprynowicz, Columnist, Las Vegas Review-Journal
 
July 9th 7 PM Delta Pinnacle Hotel Vancouver, BC
Event Details:
Speakers:
Marc Emery. Marc is a man of political and business 
prestige. In politics, he is President of the BC Marijuana 
Party and a mayoral candidate in Vancouver's municipal 
elections this November. In business, he is the world's 
largest purveyor of marijuana seeds. Marc is know for his 
entertaining speeches and his unapologetic style. Marc has 
gained the attention of the international press repeatedly, 
being featured in everything from CNN to the Wall Street 
Journal to the National Post. Marc is a principled 
libertarian, who refuses to compromise on any issue. And he 
is known for his generous activism when it comes to pro-
freedom causes.

JCT: A libertarian censor. Can anyone really believe that 
Emery holds Libertarian ethics? 

Location: Delta Pinnacle Hotel 2nd Floor Ballroom 1128 West 
Hastings Street Vancouver, B.C. Date: Tuesday July 9th, 2002 
Time: 6:30 PM Early Registration 
6:45 PM Registration and appetizers
7:00 PM Event begins
9:00 PM Event Ends
Tickets $30, Tables $210 (6 tickets)
Proceeds go to covering the cost of the event. Speakers 
lecture for free. For Tickets Contact: Michael Cust 604-786-
6618 Bruce Armstrong 780-437-1129
===

JCT: The reporter wanted to know about Vancouver people who 
might not be too happy with Marc. And I just happened to be 
able to refer him to the bc.general and nanaimo.general 
Usenet newsgroups where people had commented when I had 
posted my complaints about Marc's undemocratic and 
dictatorial nature there. 

From the http://www.cannabisculture.com forum on the 
Marijuana Party of Canada was the response as to why threads 
were deleted with Emery telling everyone it's his money and 
his place and he could do what he wanted: . 

>> The Marijuana Party  
Why have my messages w/ threads been deleted?     
balanced (unbalanced) 05/10/02 09:16 PM
 
Why have the two threads I began gone missing? Who has the 
power to delete messages anyone? I'm going to attempt to 
delete Marc Scott Emery's "turmel is a wingnut" because I 
find it silly and past it's due date. And if I cannot than 
that means the moderator of this forum is removing messages 
that he doesn't agree with. What kind of a circus side-show 
cronyistic bullshit board is this, anyway? balanced 

Marc Scott Emery (Prince of Pot) 05/10/02 10:23 PM
Re: Why have my messages w/ threads been deleted? 

I had them removed. This is my property, my space and my 
money and my organization. You are not welcome here because 
you are hostile to my interests. I am not here to give a 
sounding board for my enemies. You are no more welcome here 
than a DEA agent. Marc Emery - Moderator 

JCT: Now remember, this is the Marijuana Party of Canada 
forum that Marc insists on being able to censor because it's 
at his site. Also remember that the Marijuanapartyofcanada 
listserv at yahoogroups.com is moderated by Emery's editor 
Dana Larsen who has censored my posts from there too. Marc 
seems to have an inordinate amount of control over the party 
that his boy Boris runs. I posted my report on his actions 
from <yahoogroups.com/group/turmel/message/1053> to several 
BC newsgroups and generated the following comments which I 
referred the reporter to: 

>Newsgroups: bc.politics, nanaimo.general
>Subject: Re: TURMEL: Vancouver Mayor candidate Marc Emery 
>From: Norm Greenfield (normgreenfield@netscape.com)
>Date: 2002-05-13 21:32:11 PST 
So these guys suppose to be an argument for the use of Pot?
===
 
>From: Apostle (Apostle@god.com)
>Date: 2002-05-14 12:57:15 PST 
Emery pretends to be about free speach but he's not... he 
has barred people from his discussion boards simply because 
he is unable to debate.....
===

>From: Yubon Sir Francis (Yubon Sir Francis@hotmail.com)
>Date: 2002-05-14 17:32:15 PST 
That is true, censorship is something Mark E is good at, 
kind of reminds you of a brand new dictator on the rise. 
Everyone in his party toots the lines or they get removed 
very quickly, he is not someone I would want to see get 
elected. After all, when you put in all the money in your 
party, you get to say what you like to those who join up  
and you get to dictate policy.
===

>From: "Smokin'" <Smokin'@reefer madness.org>
>Newsgroups: alt.hemp,alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs,
>alt.hemp.politics,can.politics
>Subject: Re: TURMEL: Vancouver Mayor candidate Emery 
responds
>Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:55:54 GMT
 
> >Subject   Re: Does Marc Emery Fear Legalization?
> >Posted by TheBudsAdvocate (enthusiast) on 05/10/02 03:53 PM
> Chris, I'm just curious. Why are you fighting Marc's battles
> so strongly? He has a computer, why doesn't he just come in
Besides having a ego the size of the solar system, Marc 
Emery is currently being advised by the partyarchs who 
destroyed the BC and federal Libertarian Parties. The 
"Marijuana Party" group is almost completely composed of 
egomaniacs, con artists, anti-freedom infiltrators and RCMP 
undercover operators. Don't expect any rational behaviour 
from Emery or his political machine.
===

>From: Merlin (merlin@_round_table.org)
>Date: 2002-05-22 10:44:20 PST 
Emery is able to debate, he just does not want to. He knows 
very well that he is a censorious little tyrant and that 
many of his supporters and advisors are liars and thieves. 
He does not want to 'debate' that because he would have to 
admit that he likes it that way.
===

>From: Yubon Sir Francis (Yubon_Sir_Francis@hotmail.com)
>Date: 2002-05-22 14:54:05 PST 
That's what dictators are made of. You know that.
===

From: Apostle (Apostle@god.com)
Date: 2002-05-23 08:09:02 PST 
Well i guess it doesnt' really matter anyways, he will never 
get elected as the MP rep...
===

JCT: Okay, so the people in BC know Marc better than I ever 
did. At least he's got some style. If you visit the 
marijuana party forum and look for Marc's "wingnut" attack 
on me, you'll see that he banned further debate and the 
topic has a cute little "padlock" on it to indicate that 
it's a topic that Marc doesn't want us addressing anymore. 

Over in the news and events forum, Alan Young's gofer Steve 
Bacon had posted the story about the group of Canadian 
Exemptees being led by Young into the wrong court again 
titled: 

>Pot Laws Going Down! Mine Shaft Weed Comming Up!  
>sonnyboy (enthusiast) 
>05/23/02 12:36 PM

>DeathAndTAxes (journeyman) 
>05/23/02 07:27 PM
So, this is the legal action we've heard about? The one for 
which Mr. Young and Turmel found themselves at odds? I hope 
it goes well, but my pessimist side figures that the 
gub'mint will weasel out of it.

JCT: Yes it is the legal action for which Young sabotaged 
Turmel's Parker motion and for which we will ever be at 
odds. 
===

>skellington (old hand) 
>05/23/02 08:55 PM
i think the government wants the supreme court to force them 
to change the law so that our politicians can turn to the 
americans and throw their hands up in the air and say: 
"sorry, our judiciary is independent from the political 
process." we can always mollify the yanks and meet our drug 
treaty obligations by diverting more resources to fight 
cross border smuggling...at the very least, it would help 
keep canucks out of yank jails 
===

>Marc Scott Emery (Prince of Pot) 
>05/23/02 10:12 PM

skellington is 100% correct. The Canadian government knows 
the US is a rabid, nation-destroying imperialist empire and 
for Canadian politicians to change our laws defying the US 
is very difficult, fraught with trade sanctions, penalties, 
intimidation. DEAland carries high powered sticks to 
intimidate indeed. We in British Columbia know how US can 
wreak havoc on an economy when they want you to beg. Cursed 
America!
Long live the Canadian Supreme Court, Alan Young, John 
Conroy, and Paul Burstein. 
Edited by Marc Scott Emery (05/23/02 10:13 PM)
===

>Turmel (wingnut) 05/24/02 00:31 AM
>Cowardly Canuck Clucks Curses at America 
The Prince of Rot says: 

POR: skellington is 100% correct. The Canadian government 
knows the US is a rabid, nation-destroying imperialist 
empire and for Canadian politicians to change our laws 
defying the US is very difficult, fraught with trade 
sanctions, penalties, intimidation. DEAland carries high 
powered sticks to intimidate indeed. We in British Columbia 
know how US can wreak havoc on an economy when they want you 
to beg. Cursed America!

JCT: Sounds scared, doesn't he? Chicken Little, the Cowardly 
Canuck clucks curses at America. 
We're not all lunch-meat for US pressure. 
Not me, because I'm the leader of the Abolitionist movement; 
Not you because you're probably an RCMP mole. 

POR: Long live the Canadian Supreme Court, Alan Young, John 
Conroy, and Paul Burstein. 

JCT: The man is cheering a lawyers whose record is a dismal 
failure so far. At least he's finally keeping his heated 
ejaculations over Alan Young under control. 
===

JCT: So July 9 is the first chance for me to slap the punk's 
foul mouth in public. Just a taste of what he's going to be 
getting at every meeting until polling day. I won't give up 
especially as I lump Marc in with the big vermin like Alan 
Young, Richard Lake rather than the little lice like Steven 
Young, Alison Myrden, Boris St-Maurice et al. 

And the next time some reporter wants to do a story on Alan 
Young, or on Boris St-Maurice, or any of the crooked crew, 
I'll bet that my name pops up enough that I'll have the 
chance to get the truth out about how these traitors have 
hurt the Abolish Prohibition movement, even if they are the 
Judas Goats at the top leading the sheeple astray. 

So, LETSers of the West Coast, BC, where the LETS software 
was born, keep in mind Emery labelling LETS "no interest 
funny money" and let's see if we can get people mad enough 
to get out to the public meetings and roast his hide alive.

LETS give Emery a nightmare he'll never forget. 

--
John C. "The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel, Author of the UNILETS
interest-free time-based currency United Nations C6 recommendation to
Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm 
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel / http://www.medpot.net 613.632.2334