🚀 go-pugleaf

I think the last thing society needs is druggies in political office

I don't buy any arguments that any of you speak on behalf of the
impoverished.... otherwise you'd be given your dope away.... right?

Doesn't mark own emeryseeds.com or something like that?

You guys aren't fooling anyone bud..... although I have nothing against
Maryjane..... I just like to think my local MLA/Mayor etc isn't connected to
outright illicit activity.

You will likely see more and more backlash the higher ther MJ Party
climbs........ why cause it?



"John Turmel" <bc726@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
news:af9muo$217$1@freenet9.carleton.ca...
> JCT: I keep being asked why I don't give it up. Why I don't
> quit beating up on Alan Young, Marc Emery and their boy
> Boris St-Maurice. What's the purpose? What's the gain?
>
> Yesterday I got a call that explained the advantages of
> continued beating on the opponents. CBC.ca Vanvoucer called
> to do an interview on.... Marc Emery.
>
> Marc's running for mayor of Vancouver and in searching the
> net for his name, the reporter said my name kept popping up.
> So I took half an hour to explain how Alan Young had
> sabotaged Terry Parker's motion to invalidate the law and
> how a whole bunch of Canadian rats popped out of the
> woodwork to support his blocking Turmel.
>
> I explained how he'd been embarrassed by the straw poll
> where I got more than 4 times move votes than him for the
> leadership of the Marijuana Party and which he then deleted
> so I couldn't claim those proxy votes at the convention.
>
> The reporter had read it all and wanted to know what I was
> doing. I asked if he knew about the upcoming July 9 meeting
> where Marc Emery is supposed to be speaking. Yes, he was
> aware of it. I told him about Emery calling the world-wide
> successful LETS anti-poverty system "funny money" and that
> there would be people at the meeting to brace him on his
> economic non-sense, his censorship, and his foul mouth in
> public.
>
> >Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 23:20:12 -0400
> >From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: An Event In Vancouver in July 2002
> >To: turmel@freenet.carleton.ca
> John - for your information...
>
> The War on Freedom: Have We Lost Our Rights?
> Featuring:
> Stephen Easton, Fraser Institute
> And
> ******* Marc Emery, Vancouver Mayoral Candidate ********
> And
> Vin Suprynowicz, Columnist, Las Vegas Review-Journal
>
> July 9th 7 PM Delta Pinnacle Hotel Vancouver, BC
> Event Details:
> Speakers:
> Marc Emery. Marc is a man of political and business
> prestige. In politics, he is President of the BC Marijuana
> Party and a mayoral candidate in Vancouver's municipal
> elections this November. In business, he is the world's
> largest purveyor of marijuana seeds. Marc is know for his
> entertaining speeches and his unapologetic style. Marc has
> gained the attention of the international press repeatedly,
> being featured in everything from CNN to the Wall Street
> Journal to the National Post. Marc is a principled
> libertarian, who refuses to compromise on any issue. And he
> is known for his generous activism when it comes to pro-
> freedom causes.
>
> JCT: A libertarian censor. Can anyone really believe that
> Emery holds Libertarian ethics?
>
> Location: Delta Pinnacle Hotel 2nd Floor Ballroom 1128 West
> Hastings Street Vancouver, B.C. Date: Tuesday July 9th, 2002
> Time: 6:30 PM Early Registration
> 6:45 PM Registration and appetizers
> 7:00 PM Event begins
> 9:00 PM Event Ends
> Tickets $30, Tables $210 (6 tickets)
> Proceeds go to covering the cost of the event. Speakers
> lecture for free. For Tickets Contact: Michael Cust 604-786-
> 6618 Bruce Armstrong 780-437-1129
> ===
>
> JCT: The reporter wanted to know about Vancouver people who
> might not be too happy with Marc. And I just happened to be
> able to refer him to the bc.general and nanaimo.general
> Usenet newsgroups where people had commented when I had
> posted my complaints about Marc's undemocratic and
> dictatorial nature there.
>
> From the http://www.cannabisculture.com forum on the
> Marijuana Party of Canada was the response as to why threads
> were deleted with Emery telling everyone it's his money and
> his place and he could do what he wanted: .
>
> >> The Marijuana Party
> Why have my messages w/ threads been deleted?
> balanced (unbalanced) 05/10/02 09:16 PM
>
> Why have the two threads I began gone missing? Who has the
> power to delete messages anyone? I'm going to attempt to
> delete Marc Scott Emery's "turmel is a wingnut" because I
> find it silly and past it's due date. And if I cannot than
> that means the moderator of this forum is removing messages
> that he doesn't agree with. What kind of a circus side-show
> cronyistic bullshit board is this, anyway? balanced
>
> Marc Scott Emery (Prince of Pot) 05/10/02 10:23 PM
> Re: Why have my messages w/ threads been deleted?
>
> I had them removed. This is my property, my space and my
> money and my organization. You are not welcome here because
> you are hostile to my interests. I am not here to give a
> sounding board for my enemies. You are no more welcome here
> than a DEA agent. Marc Emery - Moderator
>
> JCT: Now remember, this is the Marijuana Party of Canada
> forum that Marc insists on being able to censor because it's
> at his site. Also remember that the Marijuanapartyofcanada
> listserv at yahoogroups.com is moderated by Emery's editor
> Dana Larsen who has censored my posts from there too. Marc
> seems to have an inordinate amount of control over the party
> that his boy Boris runs. I posted my report on his actions
> from <yahoogroups.com/group/turmel/message/1053> to several
> BC newsgroups and generated the following comments which I
> referred the reporter to:
>
> >Newsgroups: bc.politics, nanaimo.general
> >Subject: Re: TURMEL: Vancouver Mayor candidate Marc Emery
> >From: Norm Greenfield (normgreenfield@netscape.com)
> >Date: 2002-05-13 21:32:11 PST
> So these guys suppose to be an argument for the use of Pot?
> ===
>
> >From: Apostle (Apostle@god.com)
> >Date: 2002-05-14 12:57:15 PST
> Emery pretends to be about free speach but he's not... he
> has barred people from his discussion boards simply because
> he is unable to debate.....
> ===
>
> >From: Yubon Sir Francis (Yubon Sir Francis@hotmail.com)
> >Date: 2002-05-14 17:32:15 PST
> That is true, censorship is something Mark E is good at,
> kind of reminds you of a brand new dictator on the rise.
> Everyone in his party toots the lines or they get removed
> very quickly, he is not someone I would want to see get
> elected. After all, when you put in all the money in your
> party, you get to say what you like to those who join up
> and you get to dictate policy.
> ===
>
> >From: "Smokin'" <Smokin'@reefer madness.org>
> >Newsgroups: alt.hemp,alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs,
> >alt.hemp.politics,can.politics
> >Subject: Re: TURMEL: Vancouver Mayor candidate Emery
> responds
> >Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:55:54 GMT
>
> > >Subject   Re: Does Marc Emery Fear Legalization?
> > >Posted by TheBudsAdvocate (enthusiast) on 05/10/02 03:53 PM
> > Chris, I'm just curious. Why are you fighting Marc's battles
> > so strongly? He has a computer, why doesn't he just come in
> Besides having a ego the size of the solar system, Marc
> Emery is currently being advised by the partyarchs who
> destroyed the BC and federal Libertarian Parties. The
> "Marijuana Party" group is almost completely composed of
> egomaniacs, con artists, anti-freedom infiltrators and RCMP
> undercover operators. Don't expect any rational behaviour
> from Emery or his political machine.
> ===
>
> >From: Merlin (merlin@_round_table.org)
> >Date: 2002-05-22 10:44:20 PST
> Emery is able to debate, he just does not want to. He knows
> very well that he is a censorious little tyrant and that
> many of his supporters and advisors are liars and thieves.
> He does not want to 'debate' that because he would have to
> admit that he likes it that way.
> ===
>
> >From: Yubon Sir Francis (Yubon_Sir_Francis@hotmail.com)
> >Date: 2002-05-22 14:54:05 PST
> That's what dictators are made of. You know that.
> ===
>
> From: Apostle (Apostle@god.com)
> Date: 2002-05-23 08:09:02 PST
> Well i guess it doesnt' really matter anyways, he will never
> get elected as the MP rep...
> ===
>
> JCT: Okay, so the people in BC know Marc better than I ever
> did. At least he's got some style. If you visit the
> marijuana party forum and look for Marc's "wingnut" attack
> on me, you'll see that he banned further debate and the
> topic has a cute little "padlock" on it to indicate that
> it's a topic that Marc doesn't want us addressing anymore.
>
> Over in the news and events forum, Alan Young's gofer Steve
> Bacon had posted the story about the group of Canadian
> Exemptees being led by Young into the wrong court again
> titled:
>
> >Pot Laws Going Down! Mine Shaft Weed Comming Up!
> >sonnyboy (enthusiast)
> >05/23/02 12:36 PM
>
> >DeathAndTAxes (journeyman)
> >05/23/02 07:27 PM
> So, this is the legal action we've heard about? The one for
> which Mr. Young and Turmel found themselves at odds? I hope
> it goes well, but my pessimist side figures that the
> gub'mint will weasel out of it.
>
> JCT: Yes it is the legal action for which Young sabotaged
> Turmel's Parker motion and for which we will ever be at
> odds.
> ===
>
> >skellington (old hand)
> >05/23/02 08:55 PM
> i think the government wants the supreme court to force them
> to change the law so that our politicians can turn to the
> americans and throw their hands up in the air and say:
> "sorry, our judiciary is independent from the political
> process." we can always mollify the yanks and meet our drug
> treaty obligations by diverting more resources to fight
> cross border smuggling...at the very least, it would help
> keep canucks out of yank jails
> ===
>
> >Marc Scott Emery (Prince of Pot)
> >05/23/02 10:12 PM
>
> skellington is 100% correct. The Canadian government knows
> the US is a rabid, nation-destroying imperialist empire and
> for Canadian politicians to change our laws defying the US
> is very difficult, fraught with trade sanctions, penalties,
> intimidation. DEAland carries high powered sticks to
> intimidate indeed. We in British Columbia know how US can
> wreak havoc on an economy when they want you to beg. Cursed
> America!
> Long live the Canadian Supreme Court, Alan Young, John
> Conroy, and Paul Burstein.
> Edited by Marc Scott Emery (05/23/02 10:13 PM)
> ===
>
> >Turmel (wingnut) 05/24/02 00:31 AM
> >Cowardly Canuck Clucks Curses at America
> The Prince of Rot says:
>
> POR: skellington is 100% correct. The Canadian government
> knows the US is a rabid, nation-destroying imperialist
> empire and for Canadian politicians to change our laws
> defying the US is very difficult, fraught with trade
> sanctions, penalties, intimidation. DEAland carries high
> powered sticks to intimidate indeed. We in British Columbia
> know how US can wreak havoc on an economy when they want you
> to beg. Cursed America!
>
> JCT: Sounds scared, doesn't he? Chicken Little, the Cowardly
> Canuck clucks curses at America.
> We're not all lunch-meat for US pressure.
> Not me, because I'm the leader of the Abolitionist movement;
> Not you because you're probably an RCMP mole.
>
> POR: Long live the Canadian Supreme Court, Alan Young, John
> Conroy, and Paul Burstein.
>
> JCT: The man is cheering a lawyers whose record is a dismal
> failure so far. At least he's finally keeping his heated
> ejaculations over Alan Young under control.
> ===
>
> JCT: So July 9 is the first chance for me to slap the punk's
> foul mouth in public. Just a taste of what he's going to be
> getting at every meeting until polling day. I won't give up
> especially as I lump Marc in with the big vermin like Alan
> Young, Richard Lake rather than the little lice like Steven
> Young, Alison Myrden, Boris St-Maurice et al.
>
> And the next time some reporter wants to do a story on Alan
> Young, or on Boris St-Maurice, or any of the crooked crew,
> I'll bet that my name pops up enough that I'll have the
> chance to get the truth out about how these traitors have
> hurt the Abolish Prohibition movement, even if they are the
> Judas Goats at the top leading the sheeple astray.
>
> So, LETSers of the West Coast, BC, where the LETS software
> was born, keep in mind Emery labelling LETS "no interest
> funny money" and let's see if we can get people mad enough
> to get out to the public meetings and roast his hide alive.
>
> LETS give Emery a nightmare he'll never forget.
>
> --
> John C. "The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel, Author of the UNILETS
> interest-free time-based currency United Nations C6 recommendation to
> Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
> http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel / http://www.medpot.net 613.632.2334