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In article <l80S8.69216$Lf2.5761905@news2.calgary.shaw.ca>, "User" says...
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>I think the last thing society needs is druggies in political office

We've had them since the dawn of time, why stop now?

>You guys aren't fooling anyone bud..... although I have nothing against
>Maryjane..... I just like to think my local MLA/Mayor etc isn't connected to
>outright illicit activity.

You'd rather he was involved in graft and fraud, I suppose.

>You will likely see more and more backlash the higher ther MJ Party
>climbs........ why cause it?

Because it's necessary to let it vent until it wears itself out, that's why.  
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>"John Turmel" <bc726@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
>news:af9muo$217$1@freenet9.carleton.ca...
>> JCT: I keep being asked why I don't give it up. Why I don't
>> quit beating up on Alan Young, Marc Emery and their boy
>> Boris St-Maurice. What's the purpose? What's the gain?
>>
>> Yesterday I got a call that explained the advantages of
>> continued beating on the opponents. CBC.ca Vanvoucer called
>> to do an interview on.... Marc Emery.
>>
>> Marc's running for mayor of Vancouver and in searching the
>> net for his name, the reporter said my name kept popping up.
>> So I took half an hour to explain how Alan Young had
>> sabotaged Terry Parker's motion to invalidate the law and
>> how a whole bunch of Canadian rats popped out of the
>> woodwork to support his blocking Turmel.
>>
>> I explained how he'd been embarrassed by the straw poll
>> where I got more than 4 times move votes than him for the
>> leadership of the Marijuana Party and which he then deleted
>> so I couldn't claim those proxy votes at the convention.
>>
>> The reporter had read it all and wanted to know what I was
>> doing. I asked if he knew about the upcoming July 9 meeting
>> where Marc Emery is supposed to be speaking. Yes, he was
>> aware of it. I told him about Emery calling the world-wide
>> successful LETS anti-poverty system "funny money" and that
>> there would be people at the meeting to brace him on his
>> economic non-sense, his censorship, and his foul mouth in
>> public.
>>
>> >Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 23:20:12 -0400
>> >From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Subject: An Event In Vancouver in July 2002
>> >To: turmel@freenet.carleton.ca
>> John - for your information...
>>
>> The War on Freedom: Have We Lost Our Rights?
>> Featuring:
>> Stephen Easton, Fraser Institute
>> And
>> ******* Marc Emery, Vancouver Mayoral Candidate ********
>> And
>> Vin Suprynowicz, Columnist, Las Vegas Review-Journal
>>
>> July 9th 7 PM Delta Pinnacle Hotel Vancouver, BC
>> Event Details:
>> Speakers:
>> Marc Emery. Marc is a man of political and business
>> prestige. In politics, he is President of the BC Marijuana
>> Party and a mayoral candidate in Vancouver's municipal
>> elections this November. In business, he is the world's
>> largest purveyor of marijuana seeds. Marc is know for his
>> entertaining speeches and his unapologetic style. Marc has
>> gained the attention of the international press repeatedly,
>> being featured in everything from CNN to the Wall Street
>> Journal to the National Post. Marc is a principled
>> libertarian, who refuses to compromise on any issue. And he
>> is known for his generous activism when it comes to pro-
>> freedom causes.
>>
>> JCT: A libertarian censor. Can anyone really believe that
>> Emery holds Libertarian ethics?
>>
>> Location: Delta Pinnacle Hotel 2nd Floor Ballroom 1128 West
>> Hastings Street Vancouver, B.C. Date: Tuesday July 9th, 2002
>> Time: 6:30 PM Early Registration
>> 6:45 PM Registration and appetizers
>> 7:00 PM Event begins
>> 9:00 PM Event Ends
>> Tickets $30, Tables $210 (6 tickets)
>> Proceeds go to covering the cost of the event. Speakers
>> lecture for free. For Tickets Contact: Michael Cust 604-786-
>> 6618 Bruce Armstrong 780-437-1129
>> ===
>>
>> JCT: The reporter wanted to know about Vancouver people who
>> might not be too happy with Marc. And I just happened to be
>> able to refer him to the bc.general and nanaimo.general
>> Usenet newsgroups where people had commented when I had
>> posted my complaints about Marc's undemocratic and
>> dictatorial nature there.
>>
>> From the http://www.cannabisculture.com forum on the
>> Marijuana Party of Canada was the response as to why threads
>> were deleted with Emery telling everyone it's his money and
>> his place and he could do what he wanted: .
>>
>> >> The Marijuana Party
>> Why have my messages w/ threads been deleted?
>> balanced (unbalanced) 05/10/02 09:16 PM
>>
>> Why have the two threads I began gone missing? Who has the
>> power to delete messages anyone? I'm going to attempt to
>> delete Marc Scott Emery's "turmel is a wingnut" because I
>> find it silly and past it's due date. And if I cannot than
>> that means the moderator of this forum is removing messages
>> that he doesn't agree with. What kind of a circus side-show
>> cronyistic bullshit board is this, anyway? balanced
>>
>> Marc Scott Emery (Prince of Pot) 05/10/02 10:23 PM
>> Re: Why have my messages w/ threads been deleted?
>>
>> I had them removed. This is my property, my space and my
>> money and my organization. You are not welcome here because
>> you are hostile to my interests. I am not here to give a
>> sounding board for my enemies. You are no more welcome here
>> than a DEA agent. Marc Emery - Moderator
>>
>> JCT: Now remember, this is the Marijuana Party of Canada
>> forum that Marc insists on being able to censor because it's
>> at his site. Also remember that the Marijuanapartyofcanada
>> listserv at yahoogroups.com is moderated by Emery's editor
>> Dana Larsen who has censored my posts from there too. Marc
>> seems to have an inordinate amount of control over the party
>> that his boy Boris runs. I posted my report on his actions
>> from <yahoogroups.com/group/turmel/message/1053> to several
>> BC newsgroups and generated the following comments which I
>> referred the reporter to:
>>
>> >Newsgroups: bc.politics, nanaimo.general
>> >Subject: Re: TURMEL: Vancouver Mayor candidate Marc Emery
>> >From: Norm Greenfield (normgreenfield@netscape.com)
>> >Date: 2002-05-13 21:32:11 PST
>> So these guys suppose to be an argument for the use of Pot?
>> ===
>>
>> >From: Apostle (Apostle@god.com)
>> >Date: 2002-05-14 12:57:15 PST
>> Emery pretends to be about free speach but he's not... he
>> has barred people from his discussion boards simply because
>> he is unable to debate.....
>> ===
>>
>> >From: Yubon Sir Francis (Yubon Sir Francis@hotmail.com)
>> >Date: 2002-05-14 17:32:15 PST
>> That is true, censorship is something Mark E is good at,
>> kind of reminds you of a brand new dictator on the rise.
>> Everyone in his party toots the lines or they get removed
>> very quickly, he is not someone I would want to see get
>> elected. After all, when you put in all the money in your
>> party, you get to say what you like to those who join up
>> and you get to dictate policy.
>> ===
>>
>> >From: "Smokin'" <Smokin'@reefer madness.org>
>> >Newsgroups: alt.hemp,alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs,
>> >alt.hemp.politics,can.politics
>> >Subject: Re: TURMEL: Vancouver Mayor candidate Emery
>> responds
>> >Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:55:54 GMT
>>
>> > >Subject   Re: Does Marc Emery Fear Legalization?
>> > >Posted by TheBudsAdvocate (enthusiast) on 05/10/02 03:53 PM
>> > Chris, I'm just curious. Why are you fighting Marc's battles
>> > so strongly? He has a computer, why doesn't he just come in
>> Besides having a ego the size of the solar system, Marc
>> Emery is currently being advised by the partyarchs who
>> destroyed the BC and federal Libertarian Parties. The
>> "Marijuana Party" group is almost completely composed of
>> egomaniacs, con artists, anti-freedom infiltrators and RCMP
>> undercover operators. Don't expect any rational behaviour
>> from Emery or his political machine.
>> ===
>>
>> >From: Merlin (merlin@_round_table.org)
>> >Date: 2002-05-22 10:44:20 PST
>> Emery is able to debate, he just does not want to. He knows
>> very well that he is a censorious little tyrant and that
>> many of his supporters and advisors are liars and thieves.
>> He does not want to 'debate' that because he would have to
>> admit that he likes it that way.
>> ===
>>
>> >From: Yubon Sir Francis (Yubon_Sir_Francis@hotmail.com)
>> >Date: 2002-05-22 14:54:05 PST
>> That's what dictators are made of. You know that.
>> ===
>>
>> From: Apostle (Apostle@god.com)
>> Date: 2002-05-23 08:09:02 PST
>> Well i guess it doesnt' really matter anyways, he will never
>> get elected as the MP rep...
>> ===
>>
>> JCT: Okay, so the people in BC know Marc better than I ever
>> did. At least he's got some style. If you visit the
>> marijuana party forum and look for Marc's "wingnut" attack
>> on me, you'll see that he banned further debate and the
>> topic has a cute little "padlock" on it to indicate that
>> it's a topic that Marc doesn't want us addressing anymore.
>>
>> Over in the news and events forum, Alan Young's gofer Steve
>> Bacon had posted the story about the group of Canadian
>> Exemptees being led by Young into the wrong court again
>> titled:
>>
>> >Pot Laws Going Down! Mine Shaft Weed Comming Up!
>> >sonnyboy (enthusiast)
>> >05/23/02 12:36 PM
>>
>> >DeathAndTAxes (journeyman)
>> >05/23/02 07:27 PM
>> So, this is the legal action we've heard about? The one for
>> which Mr. Young and Turmel found themselves at odds? I hope
>> it goes well, but my pessimist side figures that the
>> gub'mint will weasel out of it.
>>
>> JCT: Yes it is the legal action for which Young sabotaged
>> Turmel's Parker motion and for which we will ever be at
>> odds.
>> ===
>>
>> >skellington (old hand)
>> >05/23/02 08:55 PM
>> i think the government wants the supreme court to force them
>> to change the law so that our politicians can turn to the
>> americans and throw their hands up in the air and say:
>> "sorry, our judiciary is independent from the political
>> process." we can always mollify the yanks and meet our drug
>> treaty obligations by diverting more resources to fight
>> cross border smuggling...at the very least, it would help
>> keep canucks out of yank jails
>> ===
>>
>> >Marc Scott Emery (Prince of Pot)
>> >05/23/02 10:12 PM
>>
>> skellington is 100% correct. The Canadian government knows
>> the US is a rabid, nation-destroying imperialist empire and
>> for Canadian politicians to change our laws defying the US
>> is very difficult, fraught with trade sanctions, penalties,
>> intimidation. DEAland carries high powered sticks to
>> intimidate indeed. We in British Columbia know how US can
>> wreak havoc on an economy when they want you to beg. Cursed
>> America!
>> Long live the Canadian Supreme Court, Alan Young, John
>> Conroy, and Paul Burstein.
>> Edited by Marc Scott Emery (05/23/02 10:13 PM)
>> ===
>>
>> >Turmel (wingnut) 05/24/02 00:31 AM
>> >Cowardly Canuck Clucks Curses at America
>> The Prince of Rot says:
>>
>> POR: skellington is 100% correct. The Canadian government
>> knows the US is a rabid, nation-destroying imperialist
>> empire and for Canadian politicians to change our laws
>> defying the US is very difficult, fraught with trade
>> sanctions, penalties, intimidation. DEAland carries high
>> powered sticks to intimidate indeed. We in British Columbia
>> know how US can wreak havoc on an economy when they want you
>> to beg. Cursed America!
>>
>> JCT: Sounds scared, doesn't he? Chicken Little, the Cowardly
>> Canuck clucks curses at America.
>> We're not all lunch-meat for US pressure.
>> Not me, because I'm the leader of the Abolitionist movement;
>> Not you because you're probably an RCMP mole.
>>
>> POR: Long live the Canadian Supreme Court, Alan Young, John
>> Conroy, and Paul Burstein.
>>
>> JCT: The man is cheering a lawyers whose record is a dismal
>> failure so far. At least he's finally keeping his heated
>> ejaculations over Alan Young under control.
>> ===
>>
>> JCT: So July 9 is the first chance for me to slap the punk's
>> foul mouth in public. Just a taste of what he's going to be
>> getting at every meeting until polling day. I won't give up
>> especially as I lump Marc in with the big vermin like Alan
>> Young, Richard Lake rather than the little lice like Steven
>> Young, Alison Myrden, Boris St-Maurice et al.
>>
>> And the next time some reporter wants to do a story on Alan
>> Young, or on Boris St-Maurice, or any of the crooked crew,
>> I'll bet that my name pops up enough that I'll have the
>> chance to get the truth out about how these traitors have
>> hurt the Abolish Prohibition movement, even if they are the
>> Judas Goats at the top leading the sheeple astray.
>>
>> So, LETSers of the West Coast, BC, where the LETS software
>> was born, keep in mind Emery labelling LETS "no interest
>> funny money" and let's see if we can get people mad enough
>> to get out to the public meetings and roast his hide alive.
>>
>> LETS give Emery a nightmare he'll never forget.
>>
>> --
>> John C. "The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel, Author of the UNILETS
>> interest-free time-based currency United Nations C6 recommendation to
>> Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
>> http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel / http://www.medpot.net 613.632.2334
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