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8 total messages Started by Hans Kamp Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:15
Women are sometimes weird, but they are also cute
#96
Author: Hans Kamp
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:15
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I was already sitting in the train, when two attractive women got in. One of
them sat down right in front of me, and the other sat at the other side of
the train corridor. I can see the other.

One of them sat down and was blowing (not drugs, just literally blowing) and
tsk-ing all the time. She looks at me several times. First I interpreted it
as a signal as: I had to run very fast to catch this train, I am very glad
that I can sit down and rest. Possibly she wants to make me react or start a
conversation with her. I don't like to seduce women and I don't like to be
seduced by them in trains. The other woman was also looking at me 3 or 4
times, and she looks satisfied when I look back.

This gets boring so in the beginning I frequently look at them, but when
time passes I stop looking at them. After 15 minutes I got out, and so are
these 2 women. The train is not going further but will go in the opposite
direction.

It looks like a vicious circle. The woman in front of me is looking angry,
blowing tsk-ing, and I look at her because of her behaviour. Maybe she is
angry, because I look at her, because she is angry, because I look at her,
because she is angry, because I look at her, because she is angry...

After a few minutes I am walking in the city of Enschede. The weather is
very beautiful, and there are a lot of people outside, enjoying the weather.
Two women walked 10 meters behind me and talked gossip about one of their
colleagues. That colleague is a "incredibly filthy dirty bitch", and because
of that I start to smile and look back several times. They are gossiping
very loud. Although there are 10 meters between them and me, I can hear
every word they say. I smiled back and they smile to me. Also they make me
react. Why do some women talk that loud, that I can hear every word,
although I am 10 meters (about 11 yards) away from them?

After a few minutes again I am at the ice-cream store where I often buy
ice-cream. I often buy soft-ice with coloured spots. In Dutch I call them
"spikkels" (sound like spickles). I said smiling: "Hier is Hans de
Spikkelman" (Here is Hans, the Spikkel man). They smile. I said: "You said
yesterday: 'After one month they are having their holidays.' Then it is
over!" One of the women says: "No, you could buy Magnum Whites". I said:
"Yes, but eating Magnums will make me fat." She said smiling: "If you left
out the pudding or the yoghurt (In the Netherlands we often eat yoghurt),
you can eat a Magnum, and you won't get fat." Of course, she is worrying
about the number of purchases and buyings in her store! A cute and a
humorous marketing technique.

Women are really cute, but it is the shyness that does spoil everything.
Apparently my autism isn't the problem here. It isn't difficult to make a
lot of fun with women. It is a pity, that I had such a hate against them. I
am not totally convinced.


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Hans Kamp (Win2000)
info@hanskamp.com
www.hanskamp.com
Re: Women are sometimes weird, but they are also cute
#97
Author: Lane Browning
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 02:24
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>
> One of them sat down and was blowing (not drugs, just literally blowing)
and
> tsk-ing all the time. She looks at me several times. First I interpreted
it
> as a signal as: I had to run very fast to catch this train, I am very glad
> that I can sit down and rest.
 This gets boring so in the beginning I frequently look at them, but when
> time passes I stop looking at them. After 15 minutes I got out, and so are
> these 2 women. The train is not going further but will go in the opposite
> direction.
>
> It looks like a vicious circle. The woman in front of me is looking angry,
> blowing tsk-ing, and I look at her because of her behaviour.

Why did you do that?  Perhaps she has Tourette's and couldn't help her
behavior.
She probably thought you were rude.

Maybe she is
> angry, because I look at her,

I think so.

 because she is angry, because I look at her,
> because she is angry, because I look at her, because she is angry...

don't look at angry people.
>
> > react. Why do some women talk that loud, that I can hear every word,

um, this has nothing to do with their sex;  some PEOPLE talk loudly.  I'm
sure they didn't
care that you could overhear their comments.

"Yes, but eating Magnums will make me fat." She said smiling: "If you left
> out the pudding or the yoghurt (In the Netherlands we often eat yoghurt),
> you can eat a Magnum, and you won't get fat." Of course, she is worrying
> about the number of purchases and buyings in her store! A cute and a
> humorous marketing technique.

Indeed!
>
> Women are really cute, but it is the shyness that does spoil everything.

Think of them as people rather than women.  Try to speak to them and behave
around them
as you would around any adult of any age or sex.  It might help.

> Apparently my autism isn't the problem here. It isn't difficult to make a
> lot of fun with women. It is a pity, that I had such a hate against them.

Are you saying you hate women?  Or used to hate women?  They're just people,
they come in all types, both hateful and not hateful.  Your mom was one! :-)

 I
> am not totally convinced.

of what?
>
>
> --
> Hans Kamp (Win2000)
> info@hanskamp.com
> www.hanskamp.com
>
Re: Women are sometimes weird, but they are also cute
#98
Author: ExpressMyself
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 12:01
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Hans Kamp wrote:

<stuff>

I love your title line on this.  :)  That's all I have to say.

EM
Are humans weird? (was: Women are sometimes weird, but they are also cute)
#92
Author: Hans Kamp
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 07:07
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"Jared Blackburn" <enlil@utk.edu> schreef in bericht
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> If you ask me, human beings in general are wierd.

Some are weirder than others. Don't think at "The Animal Farm" (written bij
George Orwell) immediately, in which he wrote: "All animals are equal, but
some are more equal than others"... :-)


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Hans Kamp (Win2000)
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www.hanskamp.com
Re: Women are sometimes weird, but they are also cute
#91
Author: Jared Blackburn
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 08:55
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If you ask me, human beings in general are wierd.

Jared.
-- 
"Rain and river, a world of Wonder,
 May be paradise to me." -- Enya, "China Roses"
Re: Are humans weird? (was: Women are sometimes weird, but they are also cute)
#93
Author: Peter Abma
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 20:24
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YOU 	are quit right, o no nut me I am just the same as anyone. 
I only play this game for fun!!!!















supertramp
On Sun, 03 Sep 2000 07:07:04 GMT, "Hans Kamp" <hmkamp@home.nl> wrote:

>
>"Jared Blackburn" <enlil@utk.edu> schreef in bericht
>news:39B21218.C5C14B0F@utk.edu...
>> If you ask me, human beings in general are wierd.
>
>Some are weirder than others. Don't think at "The Animal Farm" (written bij
>George Orwell) immediately, in which he wrote: "All animals are equal, but
>some are more equal than others"... :-)
>
>
>--
>Hans Kamp (Win2000)
>info@hanskamp.com
>www.hanskamp.com
>
Re: Women are sometimes weird, but they are also cute
#94
Author: stephen
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 18:53
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In alt.support.shyness Hans Kamp <hmkamp@home.nl> wrote:
: One of them sat down and was blowing (not drugs, just literally blowing) and
: tsk-ing all the time. She looks at me several times. First I interpreted it
: as a signal as: I had to run very fast to catch this train, I am very glad
: that I can sit down and rest. Possibly she wants to make me react or start a
: conversation with her. I don't like to seduce women and I don't like to be
: seduced by them in trains. The other woman was also looking at me 3 or 4
: times, and she looks satisfied when I look back.

This is somewhat unrelated, 
I know this might all just be a translation problem,  but your use 
of the word "seduce" has always puzzled me.  You seem to use it 
to mean "flirt".  In American English "flirt" and "seduce" are 
very different words.  People flirt on trains.  Smiling, eye contact, 
talking, are all part of flirting.  Flirting is generally a very positive, 
carefree activity.  Seduction is something else altogether.  Seduction 
has connotations that imply that you are leading someone astray, convincing 
them to do something they would not do in a normal frame of mind.  
When talking about men and women, seduction implies sex.  

I doubt that the women on the trains are really trying to seduce you.  
Flirt with you perhaps, but not seduce you.  Using the word "seduce"
makes the women seem threatening, when in reality there are probably
quite harmless.
 
Stephen
Re: Women are sometimes weird, but they are also cute
#95
Author: Hans Kamp
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 20:58
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<stephen@nomail.msu.edu> schreef in bericht
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> In alt.support.shyness Hans Kamp <hmkamp@home.nl> wrote:
> : One of them sat down and was blowing (not drugs, just literally blowing)
and
> : tsk-ing all the time. She looks at me several times. First I interpreted
it
> : as a signal as: I had to run very fast to catch this train, I am very
glad
> : that I can sit down and rest. Possibly she wants to make me react or
start a
> : conversation with her. I don't like to seduce women and I don't like to
be
> : seduced by them in trains. The other woman was also looking at me 3 or 4
> : times, and she looks satisfied when I look back.
>
> This is somewhat unrelated,
> I know this might all just be a translation problem,  but your use
> of the word "seduce" has always puzzled me.  You seem to use it
> to mean "flirt".  In American English "flirt" and "seduce" are
> very different words.  People flirt on trains.  Smiling, eye contact,
> talking, are all part of flirting.  Flirting is generally a very positive,
> carefree activity.  Seduction is something else altogether.  Seduction
> has connotations that imply that you are leading someone astray,
convincing
> them to do something they would not do in a normal frame of mind.
> When talking about men and women, seduction implies sex.
>
> I doubt that the women on the trains are really trying to seduce you.
> Flirt with you perhaps, but not seduce you.  Using the word "seduce"
> makes the women seem threatening, when in reality there are probably
> quite harmless.

That is true. Then it depends on my mood whether I want to have a
conversation with a woman.


--
Hans Kamp (Win2000)
info@hanskamp.com
www.hanskamp.com
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