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Re: please have patience - those of you who wish to see srs topics discussed here ...

#325
From: Star Traveler
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 00:00
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In article <6q39cq$c0c$1@news-2.news.gte.net>, "C.E.L.E.S.T.E.S."
<lessandlessspam.celestes@usa.net> wrote:

> Dear Wired Angel and other loyal alt.support.srs readers:
> 
> Because my primary concern is with the things that led me to found this
> news group, I need to think long and hard right now about the choices
> that I make in regard to it.

I see you're ignoring the three point declaration I said would cause me to
drop pointing you out as the censor. You seem totally intent on remaining
in the censorship position, and trying to cover up for it, by acting
syrupy sweet, while surreptiously canceling up a storm beneath the
surface.



> I have had great fun poking, jibing, cajoling and bantering with the
> various trolls, psychopaths and sociopaths who would never think of
> discussing SRS topics here, who instead only bring curse words, outings,
> trolls of various sorts, vitriol, venom, contempt, and nothing to say
> about srs related topics.

The only thing that has come from me is total and utter contempt for any
kind of censor. You're the embodiment of that censorship principle at work
in this newsgroup, oppressing all the others.



> My sole purpose in doing those things is to keep them busy, to keep them
> annoyed until they go away and leave this place for this interesting in
> posting on topic articles. I promise to stop bantering when them when
> they either get on topic or simply leave.
> 
> Some of the worst have already gone. A few of the persistent trouble
> makers remain. But those of you who have known me, and read my articles
> over the past two to three years, know that I have stamina,
> resourcefulness and drive.

Yes, that's evident in your plan to take over this group again, by hook or
crook -- with your sly plan to bring havoc to it and have everyone cry
"uncle", so you can step back into your favorite position of "newsgroup
censor."



> I can only ask each and every one of you who is sincerely interested in
> making this the safe, serene, place it was when it began, to hold on, to
> have patience, to remain steadfast.

You were given the opportunity to create a moderated group by several
different people. That's the forum for a "controlled group." There was
also a suggestion to form a private mailing list for those who wanted some
more control over their postings. This current *open* and *free* group
could then provide an easy place for the new people to drop into -- which
can then serve as a pointer to a more controlled environment for those who
may want that.

But, no -- you simply wanted to control everything you could get your
hands on. That's why you're creating all this havoc with those
"underground" cancels, right now.



> We have seen the worst of trolls come and go over the years. And
> generally they do go. Actually all of them eventually move on. It is
> only those sincerely interested in the real topic matter of this news
> group who remain for the long haul.

Free speech issues are going to cause many different people to remain here
for the long haul -- until you give up your censorship oppression of the
group.



> The recent "events" has unfortunately given this news group a "Public"
> profile on usenet. That publicity has attracted trolls and net-kooks of
> all sorts from other parts of the usenet cyber world. they too will
> eventually get bored and leave this place alone to get back to its
> appointed agenda.

Not until free speech is restored.



> So take a deep breath sisters. Just scroll past the trash. Fear not. I
> know you are out their lurking, sending me supportive email and that you
> remain valiantly loyal, and that your oaths of fealty are strong.
> 
> The news group will survive and outlive this temporary hiccup.

The question is -- "Will it survive you?"


> 
> So for now, just write on-topic articles when you can, as I have tried
> to do as well. I will try my best to respond to any and all inquires
> about srs related topics.

Why don't you affirm those three points I posted earlier and why don't you
form that "moderated group" in order to give people a "quieter place"?



> thanks again,
> let just all be patient and steadfast,
> its the right thing to do ...

The right thing to do is to restore free speech.





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xxx                    --> Star Traveler <--                     xxx
xxx                  <mailto:aldeberan@alt.net>                  xxx
xxx            -->>> <http://www.aldeberan.org> <<<--            xxx
xxx       UDP-ed for warning about a scam at Texas.Net ISP       xxx
xxx          Protest FOR free speech at austin.internet          xxx
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Does your news server allow forged cancels? That promotes censorship
on content. A UseNet Death Penalty was issued because of my warning
about a crooked ISP -- ** Texas.Net ** -- cheating the customers.
Complain in a post to austin.internet about the UDP and censorship!!
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From: NOT-REAL-spam-protector@manus.org (Star Traveler)
Subject: Re: please have patience - those of you who wish to see srs topics discussed here ...
Date: 1998/08/03
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