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Article #76Re: Celeste says "CANCELS ARE FREE SPEECH TOO"
From: Melissa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 00:00
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 00:00
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In article <aldeberan-9807250250590001@alt.net>, aldeberan@alt.net (Star Traveler) wrote: >Just to let you know what Celeste is saying and thinking see the >following. The first part is from Tim Rosmus, who put an end to this >cancel nonsense from Celeste. But, apparently Celeste thinks she's on some >kind of sabbatical. Perhaps she thinks she's returning soon. > > >In article <aldeberan-9807241936510001@alt.net>, aldeberan@alt.net (Star >Traveler) wrote: > >> In article <6par2j$1mq$1@halcyon.com>, trosmus@halcyon.com (Tim Rosmus) >wrote: >> >> > I became aware of this newsgroups problems this last last Wednesday. >> > At that time I tried to work with the party in question to solve the >> > problem. Only after checking some of the other groups where the rest >> > of the flame wars migrated, did I realize about the multiple group >> > cancellations. >> > >> > Any cancelling by this party has now been completely stopped. Also >> > if the need arises we will simply remove the group from our servers. >> > While I have no way of recovering the lost articles, I've been told >> > that they can still be found on Deja-NeWS. The party in question has >> > also agreed to take some "time off" away from this group to let tempers >> > settle. Also pursuit of a truly moderated group may occur, but this is >> > up to the parties involved. >> > >> > We at Northwest Nexus apologize for any inconvenience or headaches >> > this may have caused (I know I have one). >> >> >> It's good news to hear that a wacko censor, Celeste (in alt.support.srs) >> has been put out of business. We'll have to keep working on free speech >> issues so that all the censors are put out of business and the speech is >> truly free on UseNet. > > > > >And Celeste answers me by saying -- > >In article <6pbkbg$sun$1@news-1.news.gte.net>, "Celeste" ><celestes.spamfree@usa.net> wrote: > >> Sorry honey I stopped my cancelbot on my own. >> >> It had served its purpose. >> >> It was my demonstration against the flame war there. >> >> It will probably bring the flame war there to an end soon. >> >> Cancels can be free speech too. Oh I love that Orwellian Doublespeak. Peace is war, hate is love, infringing free speech is free speech... All would-be tyrants like to claim "it's for your own good". >> - Like strikers blocking the scabs. >> >> - It picketed against the alt.support.srs flames for a full 36 hours. >> >> - it let the ON TOPIC articles through. > > >It sounds like she was doing quite a "service" for the group. Right. Just like a flu virus thinks it's doing a service for the victim. >And also it sounds like if she just stopped "on her own" -- then she can >start up just as easily on her own. I say, "Once a censor, always a >censor." Once a tyrant always a tyrant. - Melissa Moderate Centrist Libertarian, Member: NRA, SWARM, Mensa Personal web pages:http://www.concentric.net/~Melissa9/ What is it exactly that Dan Rather, Roy Romer, and Bill Maher don't understand about the 2nd Amendment?!: http://www.concentric.net/~Melissa9/2nd.htm That's my opinion. To email me, remove both spam proofing X's in my email address. If you have anything negative to say, please do it in the newsgroups and not in my private email box. Hostile or harassing email will probably be instantly deleted and may result in complaints to the party's ISP. "If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that it values more, it will lose that too." - W. Somerset Maugham, "Strictly Personal," 1941 "Liberty has never come from government. Liberty has always come from the subjects of government. The history of liberty is the history of resistance." - Woodrow Wilson
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1160de,c5e948c87400eb17 X-Google-Attributes: gid1160de,public X-Google-Thread: 10a1fc,c5e948c87400eb17 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a1fc,public X-Google-Thread: 113866,2e7824475bdeecc0 X-Google-Attributes: gid113866,public X-Google-Thread: 103916,da4f1c18c23f6415 X-Google-Attributes: gid103916,public X-Google-Thread: 100579,da4f1c18c23f6415 X-Google-Attributes: gid100579,public X-Google-Thread: 10bd82,da4f1c18c23f6415 X-Google-Attributes: gid10bd82,public X-Google-Thread: 1046d5,c5e948c87400eb17 X-Google-Attributes: gid1046d5,public X-Google-Thread: 1080eb,c5e948c87400eb17 X-Google-Attributes: gid1080eb,public From: Melissa9X@Xconcentric.net (Melissa) Subject: Re: Celeste says "CANCELS ARE FREE SPEECH TOO" Date: 1998/07/29 Message-ID: <6popk1$81@examiner.concentric.net> X-Deja-AN: 376217879 References: <6par2j$1mq$1@halcyon.com> <aldeberan-9807241936510001@alt.net> <6pbkbg$sun$1@news-1.news.gte.net> <aldeberan-9807250250590001@alt.net> Organization: Concentric Internet Services Newsgroups: alt.support.srs,alt.censorship,austin.internet,dfw.internet.providers,houston.internet.providers,news.admin.censorship,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,tx.general