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Re: Celeste says "CANCELS ARE FREE SPEECH TOO"

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From: Melissa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 00:00
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In article <aldeberan-9807250250590001@alt.net>,
   aldeberan@alt.net (Star Traveler) wrote:
>Just to let you know what Celeste is saying and thinking see the
>following. The first part is from Tim Rosmus, who put an end to this
>cancel nonsense from Celeste. But, apparently Celeste thinks she's on 
some
>kind of sabbatical. Perhaps she thinks she's returning soon.
>
>
>In article <aldeberan-9807241936510001@alt.net>, aldeberan@alt.net 
(Star
>Traveler) wrote:
>
>> In article <6par2j$1mq$1@halcyon.com>, trosmus@halcyon.com (Tim  
Rosmus)
>wrote:
>> 
>> >   I became aware of this newsgroups problems this last last 
Wednesday.  
>> > At that time I tried to work with the party in question to solve 
the 
>> > problem.  Only after checking some of the other groups where the 
rest 
>> > of the flame wars migrated, did I realize about the multiple 
group 
>> > cancellations.
>> > 
>> >   Any cancelling by this party has now been completely stopped.  
Also 
>> > if the need arises we will simply remove the group from our 
servers.
>> > While I have no way of recovering the lost articles, I've been 
told 
>> > that they can still be found on Deja-NeWS.  The party in question 
has 
>> > also agreed to take some "time off" away from this group to let 
tempers
>> > settle.  Also pursuit of a truly moderated group may occur, but 
this is
>> > up to the parties involved.
>> > 
>> > We at Northwest Nexus apologize for any inconvenience or 
headaches 
>> > this may have caused (I know I have one).
>> 
>> 
>> It's good news to hear that a wacko censor, Celeste (in 
alt.support.srs)
>> has been put out of business. We'll have to keep working on free 
speech
>> issues so that all the censors are put out of business and the 
speech is
>> truly free on UseNet.
>
>
>
>
>And Celeste answers me by saying --
>
>In article <6pbkbg$sun$1@news-1.news.gte.net>, "Celeste"
><celestes.spamfree@usa.net> wrote:
>
>> Sorry honey I stopped my cancelbot on my own.
>> 
>> It had served its purpose.
>> 
>> It was my demonstration against the flame war there.
>> 
>> It will probably bring the flame war there to an end soon.
>> 
>> Cancels can be free speech too.

Oh I love that Orwellian Doublespeak. Peace is war, hate is love, 
infringing free speech is free speech... All would-be tyrants like to 
claim "it's for your own good".

>>  -  Like strikers blocking the scabs.
>> 
>>  -  It picketed against the alt.support.srs flames for a full 36 
hours.
>> 
>>   - it let the ON TOPIC articles through.
>
>
>It sounds like she was doing quite a "service" for the group.

Right. Just like a flu virus thinks it's doing a service for the 
victim.

>And also it sounds like if she just stopped "on her own" -- then she 
can
>start up just as easily on her own. I say, "Once a censor, always a
>censor."

Once a tyrant always a tyrant.


- Melissa
Moderate Centrist Libertarian, Member: NRA, SWARM, Mensa
Personal web pages:http://www.concentric.net/~Melissa9/
What is it exactly that Dan Rather, Roy Romer, and Bill Maher don't
understand about the 2nd Amendment?!:
http://www.concentric.net/~Melissa9/2nd.htm

That's my opinion. To email me, remove both spam proofing X's in my email
address. If you have anything negative to say, please do it in the newsgroups
and not in my private email box. Hostile or harassing email will probably be
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"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its
freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money
that it values more, it will lose that too."  - W. Somerset Maugham,
"Strictly Personal," 1941

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the subjects of government. The history of liberty is the history
of resistance." - Woodrow Wilson
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From: Melissa9X@Xconcentric.net (Melissa)
Subject: Re: Celeste says "CANCELS ARE FREE SPEECH TOO"
Date: 1998/07/29
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