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Article #77Re: Inappropriate Retro-Moderation
From: Star Traveler
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:00
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:00
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In article <35B58724.6AD0C0FD@bga.com>, Julie Haugh <jfh@bga.com> wrote: > X-No-Archive: NO > > Greetings, > > If you are a citizen of the State of Texas and believe that you > are being injured by the unauthorized forging of "cancel" messages > against articles which you are posting, please send me a letter. > There are legal remedies which are available to the residents of > this State and sufficient legal precedent in Travis County to likely > get an injunction against Celeste. I hate to tell you this, but your company that you currently have service with is one of the biggest censors in Texas (bga.com) as they are affiliated with RealTime Internet Services and also give a home to the big censor in Texas, who likes to censor on content -- who is Chip Rosenthal. I would suggest you work on cleaning up your own backyard first -- before you attempt to clean up someone else's backyard. Censorship encountered anywhere is still censorship -- it matters not what the topic is. I find myself allied with many (and as such compatriots) on the basis of censorship itself, while I may be totally opposed otherwise. It's simply that free speech is the underpinnings for all other things. If you remove that -- then you have nothing left. The issues discussed in the "austin.internet" group was not about these issues here. There it was about fraudulent advertising, scamming customers, bad customer service. And the result was -- attempts at retromoderation, censorship, and finally a UDP -- all to shut up the scamming that was done by the company Texas.Net. So, if you are truly opposed to censorship -- and are not just trying to maintain a personal viewpoint that is being stomped on here -- then you would have already been cleaning up your own backyard, first. Therefore, where have your efforts been in Texas -- in regards to censorship stemming **directly** from the providers that you are with? You seem to be more "conveniently" involved with this censorship issue, instead of attacking it on all fronts, no matter where it appears. I don't have anything to do with these issues discussed here -- yet I know what the censorship beast looks like when it appears, and it has appeared here. Why don't you know what it looks like when it appears where you are at? And if you want me to make it simpler for some of you, you could call Chip Rosenthal (the censor in Austin) "Celeste" for what he is doing (with the added understanding that he also has the backing of certain segments of the ISP industry, to silence consumers who point out scamming and cheating of the customers of certain ISPs. Chip Rosenthal has been compared to an "industry-whore" working for "pimp" ISPs. That's about what it is. Perhaps what he is doing is worse, being a whore for industry money, than someone who may be overzealous and totally misguided. Let me tell you, the censorship beast in your backyard is neither misguided or overzealous, but a total bigot and dictator, out to enforce industry viewpoints and silence any consumer issues. xxx xxx xxx A message xxx xxx from the original, one & only xxx xxx --> Star Traveler <-- xxx xxx <mailto:aldeberan@alt.net> xxx xxx -->>> <http://www.aldeberan.org> <<<-- xxx xxx UDP-ed for warning about a scam at Texas.Net ISP xxx xxx Protest FOR free speech at austin.internet xxx xxx xxx Does your news server allow forged cancels? That promotes censorship on content. A UseNet Death Penalty was issued because of my warning about a crooked ISP -- ** Texas.Net ** -- cheating the customers. Complain in a post to austin.internet about the UDP and censorship!!
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10a1fc,9a01b18b5db80f1f,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10a1fc,public X-Google-Thread: 1046d5,9a01b18b5db80f1f,start X-Google-Attributes: gid1046d5,public X-Google-Thread: 113866,9a01b18b5db80f1f,start X-Google-Attributes: gid113866,public X-Google-Thread: 10bd82,9a01b18b5db80f1f,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10bd82,public X-Google-Thread: 100579,9a01b18b5db80f1f,start X-Google-Attributes: gid100579,public From: aldeberan@alt.net (Star Traveler) Subject: Re: Inappropriate Retro-Moderation Date: 1998/07/22 Message-ID: <aldeberan-9807221330220001@alt.net> X-Deja-AN: 373955109 References: <35B58724.6AD0C0FD@bga.com> Organization: The Aldebaran Group, Ltd. Newsgroups: alt.support.srs,austin.internet,dfw.internet.providers,houston.internet.providers,alt.censorship,