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On 24/11/04 10:19 AM, in article jig7q0dk33ibka5t43l9qgpn8id1p47onk@4ax.com,
"Rev Turd Fredericks" <nick_ballsack@forcedshaving.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:41:15 +1100, Ribfeast <goaway@nospam.com>
> wrote:
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>> On 23/11/04 6:28 PM, in article doo5q0ljdbe650g2764doai2tk5uobajbf@4ax.com,
>> "Rev Turd Fredericks" <nick_ballsack@forcedshaving.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:16:28 +1100, Ribfeast <goaway@nospam.com>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> On 23/11/04 3:44 PM, in article 2td5q098lkocs7dl3kim9ormjlvjpkue5n@4ax.com,
>>>> "Rev Turd Fredericks" <nick_ballsack@forcedshaving.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>> SNIP>>>>>>>>
>>>> Probably around $2000-2500AU at the time I'd say.  Not bad :)
>>> Yeah, and it had state of the art video card at the time, Nvidia
>>> GeForce 2 32MB and 512MB SDRAM memory. What I did was buy stuff a bit
>>> at a time online as it went on sale.
>> 
>> Yeah buying online is the way to go these days.  For my PC gear I usually go
>> to centrecom.com.au.
> There are a couple really good places in the US to buy from too, and
> you actually get the stuff :-)
> 
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>>>>> SNIP>>>
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>>> I have two Dells at work and they aren't that bad, one is a "bottom of
>>> the barrel" type system and it performs quite well, it couldn't have
>>> cost $500 (my guess is $399 bought in bulk, 2.5 Ghz 512MB DDR memory,
>>> 40GB HD and crappy intel onboard video, it came with a 15" CRT
>>> monitor), my other machine is pretty good, or it was 2 1/2 years ago,
>>> now it is just so so. My guess is the machine I mention above is
>>> mediocre but it still comes with a warranty and the 17" LCD. For a few
>>> bucks more one could beef it up a bit with aftermarket parts :-) Where
>>> I live computer stuff is dirt cheap, even the good stuff.
>> 
>> Lucky sods in America get all the cheap stuff, we get raped via our wallets
>> here in Aussie.  That's pretty cheap though :)  But yeah, quality is
>> questionable.  
> 
> Compared to a few years ago they practically give stuff away these
> days. I don't understand why stuff is so expensive in Oz, you are a
> lot closer to where it's all made, you must have some killer tax on it
> or something, kind of like one of those hidden taxes like they put on
> gasoline.
>> 
Wish I knew where the $ was going.  After seeing the cars the Apple execs
over here drive, I have a fair idea.

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>>> 
>>> But should a vulnerability be found, there is little motivation for a
>>> company to disclose it if they are the sole maker of server software
>>> for Apple. Granted I wouldn't be likely to use windows server software
>>> (for example the awful IIS) either, but at least there are more eyes
>>> on it. 
>> 
>> Exactly, because then the hackers find out and exploit it, better to fix it
>> quietly.  As long as they fix it quickly I guess.
>> Webstar was not made by Apple, and to my knowledge its security was never
>> compromised.  
> But a comapany has to actually *tell*  people there is a problem or
> else people don't patch. I forget the site which posts vulnerabilities
> for various software and what the status is, but I'll look it up and
> post the URL. There are some pretty bad ones (for all OS's) that go
> unpatched for some time.

Software Update pops up once a week by default and notifies you of any
updates that need installing, asks for your password, and then downloads and
installs them for you, can't get much more simple than that :)
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> SNIP>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> I have never actually used any mainstream file sharing software. When
>>> I was running BeOS, I did use BeShare, but it had central servers and
>>> they had rules about sharing "illegal" files, it was just basically
>>> used to share BeOS software and as a chat mechanism/rumor mill.
>> 
>> Ahh I see...never played with BeOS, would have liked to!
> 
> You can still get it, they have an incarnation of it
> http://www.yellowtab.com/
> 
> I haven't tried it yet, I'm still waiting for the final version before
> I give it a shot. I really loved BeOS, but it was getting too old, you
> could barely browse the web with it anymore because many of the web
> technologies (flash for example) were either not available or just
> simply outdated, as well, newer hardware was not supported (usb for
> example) so it became impractical. That being said, it just flew on a
> dual processor machine makeing linux and windows look like lumbering
> dinosaurs.
Not THAT worried about trying it :)  I have an old mac 7600/200 lying around
here somewhere, and possibly a copy of BeOS, maybe I can get it going on
that if I get bored :)