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Article #613Re: Dell's Sorry History of Microphone/Soundcard Issue (Update)
From: Tom Scales
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 14:32
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 14:32
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Dell's boards are unique because they have a connector for the front panel headphone jack. However, every Dell SoundBlaster since around 2001 that I have used has happily handled Creative's drivers. The last one that wouldn't was a SoundBlaster Live Value Digital in a Dimension 8100 under Windows Me. Tom "hdrdtd" <hdrdtd@comcast.net> wrote in message news:MNadnQ79Vt6utR7enZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@giganews.com... > Note: > > While the two cards may appear to be identical, they 'may' not be. > > In the past, Dell has sometimes used Dell 'OEM' versions of the Creative > sound cards. I don't remember the details but they were different enough > that you had to get the drivers from Dell and not Ceative. > > I seem to remember that if you looked at the part number on the sound > card, then went to Creative's web site and tried to look it up, it wasn't > included in thier list. > > > "Guess Who" <chippe01@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message > news:HpWdnfIVru-LMB_eRVn-vA@giganews.com... >> It is the SAME exact card, except, the card I replaced it with is my >> RETAIL version, so there was no redetection required - same driver >> install. My card records fine, Dell's does not. >> >> I never claimed to be an electronics expert, or recording engineer - but >> I DO know about computers. >> >> And just how, in your opinion, would a motherboard swap help me here? >> Many people have this problem, and NONE that I have read about had this >> issue resolved by replacing the motherboard, OR the soundcard. >> >> >> "kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message >> news:tpt2o1tmf5oompa6apuivfabdt0kq7orm7@4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:39:30 -0500, "Guess Who" >>> <chippe01@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>I can attest to this. I have a 9100 with Audigy 2 ZS, and I too have to >>>>SCREAM with the mic to my mouth to hear myself. I KNOW about computers, >>>>and >>>>build them, so I know what I am doing. I put my RETAIL SB Audigy 2 ZS >>>>in >>>>the system, and the MIC input is FINE! How do you explain that? >>> >>> If you can't figure out why the mic volume is low and >>> continue on talking with Dell about motherboard replacement, >>> I suggest that you do not know what you are doing in this >>> case. Very basic tools like a multimeter would go a long >>> way towards troubleshooting this. >>> >>> If they are exactly the same card, AND you did not reinstall >>> or change any driver settings, AND WIndows did not re-PNP >>> the card, but just continued running as if the card had not >>> changed, AND you made no changes, just started recording, >>> (and I haven't left out some other detail- so far I have >>> only spend a few minutes on it, the system is not here) it >>> is an audio card malfunction. If any of the above was not >>> true, there are still those issues to examine. This is a >>> clear-cut process of elimination. >>> >>> >>>> >>>>I contacted DELL, and of course, they sent a guy over with a new sound >>>>card -- NO DIFFERENCE, and I even demonstrated the difference with the >>>>DELL >>>>Audigy and my retail Audigy 2, - made 2 files in Adobe Audition and >>>>showed >>>>the tech the noticeable difference in the wav representations, and he >>>>commented on it. >>> >>> Where all three cards exactly alike, visually? Same PCB, >>> etc? >>> >>> >>>> >>>>Before he even got started I told him this was all a waste of time, and >>>>when >>>>he was done, he basically agreed with me. Next step will be a >>>>motherboard >>>>replacement, but I am not even going to bother. I've gone through too >>>>many >>>>stupid unrelated things for DELL to appease them, but I'm not going to >>>>do it >>>>anymore. They system is fine with my retail card, and I will leave it >>>>in. >>> >>> IF all of what you wrote is true, and you haven't left out >>> any relevant details, there is only one possible >>> resolution, a different sound card. WHY are you off on a >>> tangent discussing a motherboard replacement when all you >>> need is a sound card? No wonder you don't have working >>> sound, you need to clearly state the resolution to the >>> problem and if the tech can't see the logic you request >>> transfer to a supervisor. >>> >>> Do you not know anyone on earth that has a PC so you can >>> check this sound card? There is not going to be a situation >>> where the card completely works except for mic input on one >>> motherboard, yet the same card's mic magically starts >>> working on another motherboard. Either the specific card is >>> bad, or it isn't. Either way, if all you need is mic input, >>> put down $9 on a sound card and be done with it already. >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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