🚀 go-pugleaf

tala@crl.com (Tala Brandeis) writes:

>wat@athena.Eng.Sun.COM (William) writes:

>>	I don't have a problem with consistant behavior based rules --
>>things like "if you rape, you are bad".  What I heavily dislike
>>is a pre-judgement that TS's cannot be just as feminine (whatever
>>that means in a given context) as other women.  Of the TS's I
>>have known -- none were male identified -- most wanted nothing more
>>than to be fully and completely thought of as a woman.  Also,
>>just to be fully clear, I am only really talking about post-op
>>TS's.  Since to my mind, since they have identified as female
>>in personality, behavior and body to discriminate against them for
>>a past they had no choice about seems very ugly.

>Welllll;  Being a dyke probably has very little to do with being
>feminine, at least in the way most men understand feminine.  Actually,
>being a dyke has much more to do with being a woman and having 
>the consciousness of being female in a patriarchal culture.  

>Certainly one may have attraction to other women and be a lesbian,
>but even that at some point requires a female, a woman's consciousness
>to be part of the culture of women and not just part of "the bar
>scene."  

*sigh*  So being in love with a woman doesn't make me a dyke?  Damn,
and I thought I'd finally figured it out.

And my straight female friends who have far more "enlightened women's
consciousnesses" than I do are more dykey than me?

*sigh*  Thanks, but no thanks.  I'll stick to my illusion that being a
woman-LOVING woman makes me a dyke.  My label, I'll define it.

 - M, being a wee bit petulant today...
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