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Re: Proud TS Mom

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From: Tala Brandeis
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 1994 18:09
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gardner@metronet.com (Stephen M. Gardner) writes:

>In article <2nsj1p$hno@crl2.crl.com> dk@crl.com (David A. Kaye) writes:
>>I'm glad that he was able to introduce you the way you wanted.  But, 
>>looking back on it, was it fair to him?  After all, it was his day, not 
>>yours.  Just a little observation here, but you were his father, though 
>>you've changed.  He already had a mom.  I dunno, as I said I'm happy that 
>>things worked out, but I just get the feeling that you put him through 
>>something that maybe wasn't necessary.  Could you have introduced 
>>yourself as his "parent"?  
>	Parent is certainly good but I wonder if it might be preferable
>	to divorce the gender implications from the words "mom" and "dad".
>	At first blush this sounds absurd but if you examine the issue
>	from a reproductive point of view then it makes perfect sense.
>		Father/dad = sperm carrier
>		Mother/mom = egg carrier
>	All other connotations to "mom" and "dad" are socially imposed 
>	and quite changeable.  In fact it could be argued that women
>	and men will not be free to achieve their full potential
>	until sex and gender are separated completely. 


Weeelllll, I kinda like women as we are, especially dykes.  I'd
like to change the economic, social and political realm we have
been limited to participating in, but I like the ways women
interact.  I appreciate some of the ways men interact, but I'm
happy that it is their realm and I'd like them to keep it.   
This is of course intensly personal and is only what I want.

Tala@crl.com


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From: tala@crl.com (Tala Brandeis)
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Subject: Re: Proud TS Mom
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