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Article #658Child of green card holders - travel documents
From: Jhinuk Chowdhury
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:53
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:53
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My wife and I are citizens of India and permanent residents (resident aliens with green cards) of USA. Our son was born eight months ago in the US. This summer, we plan to visit India for a couple of months. What kind of travel documents should I get for my son? I could get an US passport for him as well as an Indian visa (from the Indian consulate in the US). In fact, this is what most people do. I wish I could follow this beaten path and not have second thoughts about it. It so happens that I have my preferences - ideally, I'd like to have an Indian passport for my son with whatever documentation he may need to enter the US when we return from our vacation. Unfortunately, most of the suggestions I received (from my earlier post in alt.us.visa and soc.culture.indian) indicate that the Indian consulates in the USA will most probably not issue a separate passport for a minor; however, his name could be "endorsed" (that is, appended) to my wife's passport. (One individual, however, wrote me to indicate that he obtained a separate passport for his three-year old daughter and had her affix a thumb impression in the place of a signature.) Many individuals (have informed me by e-mail that they) have had their minor child's name appended to the mother's Indian passport. These folks travel with their child's birth certificate (to present to the US immigration official at the port of entry). With this arrangement, they claim, they have never had any problems re-entering the USA. I was all set to follow this procedure when I decided - stupid me! - that it may be wise to have this corroborated by the INS office here in Dallas. After being put on hold forever and then attempting to explain my question to two INS representatives, I was transferred to a third individual who told me that the child could not be anything but an US citizen and insisted that the proper course of action would be to get an US passport issued. When I explained to her that we (his parents) would like the child to assume Indian citizenship for now (and that he may - if he wishes - change his mind as an adult), I was told that the child would *not* be allowed to enter the US without either (1) an US passport or (2) a foreign passport *and* an US visa. She indicated that since the child was born here, it was likely that he would be considered ineligible to enter with a visa. Her suggestion was that it may be worth an attempt to obtain both (the US and the Indian passports) for him! (Mind you, both US and Indian passport application forms clearly require you to declare that you are abjuring any other citizenship you may currently have.) I was told that the US officials would not consider it a transgression for a minor to have two passports (she, obviously, could not speak for the Indian authorities). In spite of her assurances, I remain *very* skeptical. It would also be incredibly unethical, if nothing else, and perhaps illegal. This lady was thoroughly annoyed when I told her about the many parents who have entered the US with the child's name on the mother's passport and a birth certificate (which showed that the baby was born in the US). She would not comment on that scenario because - it seemed - she doubted its veracity. She almost dared me to try this option with the veiled threat that it would result in blocking my child's entry to the US. I asked her to provide me with written references to the regulations she seemed to rely on. Of course, I got nothing from her. Now, I may be making too much of ill-informed, under-trained, and over- worked INS clerks who are trying to interpret an impossible maze of a bureaucratic bog-land. What, then, is the recourse? It's hard to believe that I cannot have my son assume the same citizenship as my wife and myself without major hassles. If, at the port of entry, I show them my son's birth certificate, will they ask us all to return to India (after nearly ten years of residence in the US), or are they going to put only my son (who will be about a year old then) on an India-bound airplane? Sarcasm aside, I wouldn't want to fool around with them. (It's not in very good taste, but a friend of mine jokes that the N in the INS stands for "Nazi.") Do I have a hope of getting a hold of the actual regulation(s) that may be pertinent to this case? I would perhaps be advised to contact an immigration lawyer. But, a quick look at a few of them in this part of the country has more than convinced me that most of them are completely tied up in the business of getting green cards for confused and panic- stricken non-resident aliens. I am glad I chose to do ours myself. I request your pardon for the length of this post. Any advice, direction, pointer, reference, or anecdote would be much appreciated. Best regards, - Jhinuk - +-- --+-- --+ | Jhinuk Chowdhury, Ph.D. | Internet : chowdhur@cobaf.unt.edu | Assistant Professor | - or - College of Business Administration | ff76@vaxb.acs.unt.edu | University of North Texas | FAX : (817) 565-3837 | +-- --+-- --+
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