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Article #659Re: Citizenship question (German/US)
From: Gary L Dare
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:15
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:15
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BIOSEE@UKCC.UKY.EDU (Stephanie Edelmann) writes: >I have a question for you guys. People have been asking me lately >why I don't want to apply for citizenship in the US. I've been >telling them that that's because I don't want to give up my german >citizenship. My girlfriend is also a German with US Permanent Residence so your cases are the same ... >Now here's the question: > >1. Is that actually true, do I have to give it up? Yes, the oath that you take at the citizenship ceremony renounces all previous ties. Even if your country doesn't recognize your renunciation (e.g., Canada -- the only way to do it is filing 10 forms, in triplicate, in front of consular staff; New Zealand -- there's no such thing! (-;), the Americans will pull your citizenship if you get caught exercising your past citizenship privileges. >2. If I have to give it up, is that because the US won't allow dual >citizenship or is Germany the problem? See above, re: renunciation. An *American* citizen can acquire additional new citizenships if those do not require renunciation (of the American or other past citizenships). Thus, an American can become a Canadian citizen and be a dual, but not the other way. Some countries, especially in Europe, have legacy citizenships for the children/grandchildren of previous emigrated nationals. In some cases, those bypass the renunciation that would have been required in normal naturalization. You cannot reclaim your old citizenship from your own legacy, however. (-; Also, note that one may be *born* with dual citizenship and retain that status throughout life. In practice, American PR's from other western countries tend not to go for US citizenship because there is no pressing need to do so; they're not escaping repressive regimes to be rightfully abandoned, etc. You are in good company; my girlfriend and her family (12 years), Peter Jennings, Neil Young, Wayne Gretzky, Jason Priestley (90210) -- and many other US celebrities who are actually Canadian; Jean-Louis Gassee of Apple Computer and Phillipe Kahn of Borland (France), and probably many other examples too plentiful to imagine. gld -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gary L. Dare > gld@columbia.EDU GO Winnipeg Jets GO!!! > gld@cunixc.BITNET Selanne + Domi ==> Stanley
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!olivea!pagesat!netsys!agate!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!rpi!news.columbia.edu!cunixb.cc.columbia.edu!gld From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) Newsgroups: alt.visa.us Subject: Re: Citizenship question (German/US) Message-ID: <1993Jan27.161558.1921@news.columbia.edu> Date: 27 Jan 93 16:15:58 GMT References: <16B627CCA.BIOSEE@UKCC.UKY.EDU> Sender: usenet@news.columbia.edu (The Network News) Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) Organization: Deep Space Nine (DS9) Lines: 53 Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu