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Article #106Re: License discussion was How do you to tell if you windows 98se is legal?
From: Rod Speed
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:57
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:57
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MEB wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> MEB wrote:
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23PpvN5nPKHA.4244@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23w3tGmnPKHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23nRz5TnPKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, Microsoft runs filters here {so do many of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the transfer points},
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your post didn't make it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Here"? This is usenet. Microsoft can do what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they damn well please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their server, makes no difference to the majority
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (people who are actually using usenet, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft's dumbed down web based forums).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No here, on the master for the forum via NNTP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, even Microsoft calls it a "newsgroup" as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distinct from a web based
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "forum"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no such thing as a "master" on Usenet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No internet browser is required to access any news
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, and WE did this before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You sure aren't going to get the newsgroups without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either a Internet interfaced newsreader, or via direct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download FROM the Internet or its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equivalent and some text based alternative... so your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument is without basis, its still basically the web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or the old style BBS recovery. Or is it you think it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just magically appears on your computer...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are so pedantic, yet you don't seem to absorb the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> written word? What part of my "No internet browser is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required to access any news server" don't you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand? How about you jam your smartarse "you think it just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> magically appears on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your computer..."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the sun don't shine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What part of you're using an INTERNET BASED NEWSREADER
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addressing the SAME forum don't you understand or do you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think the messages just magically appear in your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reader...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My "BROWSER" is not open or ACTIVE while I am sending
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this message on Usenet, you goose.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NO but your web based newsreader IS, ya duck..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You are spoiling your arguments by using the terms web and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet interchangably. Think Internet as being a
>>>>>>>>>>>> connection of multiple networks and the WWW as being an
>>>>>>>>>>>> application or protocol which runs on top of the Internet,
>>>>>>>>>>>> as does SMTP, NNTP, FTP and others.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not really, the protocols used, the "what makes up the
>>>>>>>>>>> Internet", which is referred to generally as the Web,
>>>>>>>>>>> determines what occurs. Without them there is none, not the
>>>>>>>>>>> Internet or the Web, regardless of the term used. Throw in
>>>>>>>>>>> an application, and all the broadcasts, IPs, and other
>>>>>>>>>>> become a usable presentation. The basic difference? The
>>>>>>>>>>> application and protocol.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The issue and misunderstanding seems to be the protocols and
>>>>>>>>>>> their usage, e.g., the application used to connect to the
>>>>>>>>>>> Web/Internet USING a specific protocol. Regardless of the
>>>>>>>>>>> method, it still remains the Web/Internet, only the
>>>>>>>>>>> application and resultant protocol used changes [as do ports
>>>>>>>>>>> and other aspects, but that is a different discussion]. The
>>>>>>>>>>> actual stream [Internet/Web] carries multiple protocols
>>>>>>>>>>> within it; it is the application [and whatever local and
>>>>>>>>>>> distant other requirements need] that determines the
>>>>>>>>>>> "connection" to whatever offered.
>>>>>>>>>> You keep implying that the terms Web/Internet are
>>>>>>>>>> interchangable. They arent.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> usenet has NOTHING to do with the web.
>>>>>>>>> Ok, so where are you receiving the newsgroups from
>>>>>>>> You can see that in the headers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and via what [and I don't mean the app used]?
>>>>>>>> NNTP. Nothing to do with the web.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Internet is an internet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Web is a web.
>>>>>>> The NTTP servers are on the Internet.
>>>>>> But have absolutely nothing to do with any web.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Web is on the Internet.
>>>>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>>>>> web.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An intranet may contain an NNTP server and not connect to the
>>>>>>> Internet.
>>>>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>>>>> web.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A web may contain messages from a news group.
>>>>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>>>>> web.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Web may contain messages from Usenets, Forums, private
>>>>>>> internets or intranets, News, newsgroups, and news postings.
>>>>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>>>>> web.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Internet contains webs, the Web, newsgroups, News servers,
>>>>>>> http servers, etc...
>>>>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>>>>> web.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now split them from each other...
>>>>>> Just did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> its a ludicrous argument...
>>>>>> Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in
>>>>>> front of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the world changes and so does how its perceived.
>>>>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>>>>> web.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just one more attempt to make Usenet something special...
>>>>>> Nope, just rubbing your pig ignorant nose in the FACT that an
>>>>>> NNTP server has nothing to do with any web.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it was originally, now is another matter.
>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well you may have your personal chance to do exactly that, prove
>>>>> me wrong.
>>>> Just did.
>>>>
>>>>> Of course it will take more than the normal Usenet crap. Your
>>>>> going to have to post info, liks, and all the things required to
>>>>> do so.
>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>
>>>>> What YOU posted means squat.
>>>> You in spades, child.
>>
>>> Ah yeah... you didn't ... you couldn't ... and you never will.
>>
>> Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying, child.
>>
>>> So have you ever done anything in your life worth having you on the
>>> planet for?
>>
>> You in spades, child.
> I would suggest you look at the Oldus Fartus segment,
No such animal.
> though I doubt you will understand, particularly as you have reverted to the usual garbage spewed by trolls in Usenet.
> In particular, this segment - Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 01:14:42 -0400
> From: MEB:
>
> " Okay what ever. Perhaps you should first note the deliberate usage
> of a lower case *web* not Web [as in the world-wide]. Change your
> thought pattern, maybe.
> It was a Usenet *bait* offering, to reel in the trolls. You can see it
> was successful [not meaning you of course]."
I already responded that, fuckwit child.
It was clearly just your desperate attempt to bullshit you way out of
your predicament that fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.
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