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Re: License discussion was How do you to tell if you windows 98se is legal?

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From: Rod Speed
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:09
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MEB wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> Greg wrote:
>>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:52:57 -0400, Greg <invalid@invalid.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sniped
>>>>
>>>> This is like trying to explain this to my mother.
>>>>
>>>> Windows full installation Oem operating disk (Not system builders)
>>>> can be sold with hardware,  as long a the disk has not been
>>>> installed. So, me buying or selling an OEM xp off of EBAY or Amazon
>>>> is perfectly legal as long as it has not be installed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What cant be sold or given away except with transfer of a computer
>>>> is Oems upgrade disk
>>>> Oems that have been installed.
>>>> Oems that have Windows Vista or W7
>>>>
>>>> Where I got that information,  is from a MVP in the windows xp
>>>> newsgroup.  I do tend to believe a MVP.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>
>>> One additional comment.  I was referring to buying and selling in
>>> the U.S.
>>>
>>> In Canada, it was ruled that OEMs can be sold without hardware and
>>> it can be sold as used.    It has to do with a law that is passed in
>>> 90's.    I think Microsoft is still trying to challenge that law.
>>> The law basically says anything you buy,  it yours to do with what
>>> you please, it even allows them to install the OEM on more that one
>>> computer.   I don't have any links to this.    This is what I read.
>>> Maybe a Canadian citizen reading this can fill us in more on the
>>> law, I am referring about.
>>
>> And there doesnt have to be a specific law either. By default you are
>> welcome to sell what you legally own and if a particular
>> jurisdiction wants
>> to cancel that common law right, it needs specific legislation that
>> does that.
>>
>> I'm not aware of even a single first or second world country that
>> has done that.

> Got several modifiers to the above comment to consider,

Nope, all of these have to be turned into legislation to have any legal effect.

> in addition to the prior materials:

Meaningless waffle.

> Free Trade Agreements
> IPO
> Treaties
> BSA
> IMSTA
> The Congressional International Anti-Piracy Caucus
> SPA
> ACCS
> CISG - http://www.law-counsel.com/Legal_information/contract_law/
> WTO
> UCC
> http://www.jus.uio.no/lm/private.international.commercial.law/contract.principles.html
> CRIA
> Canadian Copyright Act
> CAAST
> ESAC
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8219652.stm
> the recent French piracy Law
> http://search.bbc.co.uk/search?uri=%2F&scope=all&go=toolbar&q=piracy

> So when you indicate that you know of no "first or second world country" doing that, I have to wonder...

Not one of those does anything like that on the issue being
discussed, what you can legally do with what you own.

Contract law has no relevance what so ever to anyone who isnt party to any contract. 
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Subject: Re: License discussion was How do you to tell if you windows 98se is   legal?
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