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MEB wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> MEB wrote:
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:%23PpvN5nPKHA.4244@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23w3tGmnPKHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23nRz5TnPKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Ah, Microsoft runs filters here {so do many of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transfer points},
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your post didn't make it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Here"?  This is usenet.  Microsoft can do what they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damn well please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their server, makes no difference to the majority
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (people who are actually using usenet, not Microsoft's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dumbed down web based forums).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No here, on the master for the forum via NNTP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, even Microsoft calls it a "newsgroup" as distinct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from a web based
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "forum"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no such thing as a "master" on Usenet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No internet browser is required to access any news
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, and WE did this before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You sure aren't going to get the newsgroups without
>>>>>>>>>>>>> either a Internet interfaced newsreader, or via direct
>>>>>>>>>>>>> download FROM the Internet or its
>>>>>>>>>>>>> equivalent and some text based alternative... so your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument is without basis, its still basically the web or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the old style BBS recovery. Or is it you think it just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> magically appears on your computer...
>>>>>>>>>>>> You are so pedantic, yet you don't seem to absorb the
>>>>>>>>>>>> written word? What part of my  "No internet browser is
>>>>>>>>>>>> required to access any news server" don't you understand?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How about you jam your smartarse "you think it just
>>>>>>>>>>>> magically appears on
>>>>>>>>>>>> your computer..."
>>>>>>>>>>>> where the sun don't shine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What part of you're using an INTERNET BASED NEWSREADER
>>>>>>>>>>> addressing the SAME forum don't you understand or do you
>>>>>>>>>>> think the messages just magically appear in your reader...
>>>>>>>>>> My "BROWSER" is not open or ACTIVE while I am sending this
>>>>>>>>>> message on Usenet, you goose.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> NO but your web based newsreader IS, ya duck..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are spoiling your arguments by using the terms web and
>>>>>>>> Internet interchangably.   Think Internet as being a connection
>>>>>>>> of multiple networks and the WWW as being an application or
>>>>>>>> protocol which runs on top of the Internet, as does SMTP, NNTP,
>>>>>>>> FTP and others.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not really, the protocols used, the "what makes up the
>>>>>>> Internet", which is referred to generally as the Web,
>>>>>>> determines what occurs. Without them there is none, not the
>>>>>>> Internet or the Web, regardless of the term used. Throw in an
>>>>>>> application, and all the broadcasts, IPs, and other become a
>>>>>>> usable presentation. The basic difference? The application and
>>>>>>> protocol.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The issue and misunderstanding seems to be the protocols and
>>>>>>> their usage, e.g., the application used to connect to the
>>>>>>> Web/Internet USING a specific protocol. Regardless of the
>>>>>>> method, it still remains the Web/Internet, only the application
>>>>>>> and resultant protocol used changes [as do ports and other
>>>>>>> aspects, but that is a different discussion]. The actual stream
>>>>>>> [Internet/Web] carries multiple protocols within it; it is the
>>>>>>> application [and whatever local and distant other requirements
>>>>>>> need] that determines the "connection" to whatever offered.
>>>>>> You keep implying that the terms Web/Internet are interchangable.
>>>>>> They arent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> usenet has NOTHING to do with the web.
>>>>> Ok, so where are you receiving the newsgroups from
>>>> You can see that in the headers.
>>>>
>>>>> and via what [and I don't mean the app used]?
>>>> NNTP. Nothing to do with the web.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The Internet is an internet.
>>>
>>> The Web is a web.
>>
>>> The NTTP servers are on the Internet.
>>
>> But have absolutely nothing to do with any web.
>>
>>> The Web is on the Internet.
>>
>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>> web.
>>
>>> An intranet may contain an NNTP server and not connect to the
>>> Internet.
>>
>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>> web.
>>
>>> A web may contain messages from a news group.
>>
>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>> web.
>>
>>> The Web may contain messages from Usenets, Forums, private
>>> internets or intranets, News, newsgroups, and news postings.
>>
>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>> web.
>>
>>> The Internet contains webs, the Web, newsgroups, News servers, http
>>> servers, etc...
>>
>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>> web.
>>
>>> Now split them from each other...
>>
>> Just did.
>>
>>> its a ludicrous argument...
>>
>> Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in
>> front of it.
>>
>>> the world changes and so does how its perceived.
>>
>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>> web.
>>
>>> Just one more attempt to make Usenet something special...
>>
>> Nope, just rubbing your pig ignorant nose in the FACT that an NNTP
>> server has nothing to do with any web.
>>
>>> it was originally, now is another matter.
>>
>> Wrong, as always.
>>
>>
>
> Well you may have your personal chance to do exactly that, prove me wrong.

Just did.

> Of course it will take more than the normal Usenet crap. Your going
> to have to post info, liks, and all the things required to do so.

Wrong, as always.

> What YOU posted means squat.

You in spades, child.