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Re: License discussion was How do you to tell if you windows 98se is legal?

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From: Rod Speed
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:37
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MEB wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> MEB wrote:
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> Greg wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:52:57 -0400, Greg <invalid@invalid.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sniped
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is like trying to explain this to my mother.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows full installation Oem operating disk (Not system
>>>>>> builders) can be sold with hardware,  as long a the disk has not
>>>>>> been installed. So, me buying or selling an OEM xp off of EBAY
>>>>>> or Amazon is perfectly legal as long as it has not be installed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What cant be sold or given away except with transfer of a
>>>>>> computer is Oems upgrade disk
>>>>>> Oems that have been installed.
>>>>>> Oems that have Windows Vista or W7
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where I got that information,  is from a MVP in the windows xp
>>>>>> newsgroup.  I do tend to believe a MVP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>> One additional comment.  I was referring to buying and selling in
>>>>> the U.S.
>>>>>
>>>>> In Canada, it was ruled that OEMs can be sold without hardware and
>>>>> it can be sold as used.    It has to do with a law that is passed
>>>>> in 90's.    I think Microsoft is still trying to challenge that
>>>>> law. The law basically says anything you buy,  it yours to do
>>>>> with what you please, it even allows them to install the OEM on
>>>>> more that one computer.   I don't have any links to this.    This
>>>>> is what I read. Maybe a Canadian citizen reading this can fill us
>>>>> in more on the law, I am referring about.
>>>> And there doesnt have to be a specific law either. By default you
>>>> are welcome to sell what you legally own and if a particular
>>>> jurisdiction wants
>>>> to cancel that common law right, it needs specific legislation that
>>>> does that.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not aware of even a single first or second world country that
>>>> has done that.
>>
>>> Got several modifiers to the above comment to consider,
>>
>> Nope, all of these have to be turned into legislation to have any
>> legal effect.
>>
>>> in addition to the prior materials:
>>
>> Meaningless waffle.
>>
>>> Free Trade Agreements
>>> IPO
>>> Treaties
>>> BSA
>>> IMSTA
>>> The Congressional International Anti-Piracy Caucus
>>> SPA
>>> ACCS
>>> CISG - http://www.law-counsel.com/Legal_information/contract_law/
>>> WTO
>>> UCC
>>> http://www.jus.uio.no/lm/private.international.commercial.law/contract.principles.html
>>> CRIA
>>> Canadian Copyright Act
>>> CAAST
>>> ESAC
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8219652.stm
>>> the recent French piracy Law
>>> http://search.bbc.co.uk/search?uri=%2F&scope=all&go=toolbar&q=piracy
>>
>>> So when you indicate that you know of no "first or second world
>>> country" doing that, I have to wonder...
>>
>> Not one of those does anything like that on the issue being
>> discussed, what you can legally do with what you own.
>>
>> Contract law has no relevance what so ever to anyone who isnt party
>> to any contract.
>>
>>
>
> Yeah, normal Usenet garbage. So do you think anyone actually
> believes you other than those also don't have a clue... like you...

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag. 
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From: "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.windows98,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,aus.computers
Subject: Re: License discussion was How do you to tell if you windows 98se is   legal?
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:37:54 +1000
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