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Article #157Re: License discussion was How do you to tell if you windows 98se is legal?
From: Rod Speed
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:38
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:38
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MEB wrote: > Rod Speed wrote: >> MEB wrote: >>> Rod Speed wrote: >>>> Greg wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:52:57 -0400, Greg <invalid@invalid.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sniped >>>>>> >>>>>> This is like trying to explain this to my mother. >>>>>> >>>>>> Windows full installation Oem operating disk (Not system >>>>>> builders) can be sold with hardware, as long a the disk has not >>>>>> been installed. So, me buying or selling an OEM xp off of EBAY >>>>>> or Amazon is perfectly legal as long as it has not be installed. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What cant be sold or given away except with transfer of a >>>>>> computer is Oems upgrade disk >>>>>> Oems that have been installed. >>>>>> Oems that have Windows Vista or W7 >>>>>> >>>>>> Where I got that information, is from a MVP in the windows xp >>>>>> newsgroup. I do tend to believe a MVP. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Greg >>>>> One additional comment. I was referring to buying and selling in >>>>> the U.S. >>>>> >>>>> In Canada, it was ruled that OEMs can be sold without hardware and >>>>> it can be sold as used. It has to do with a law that is passed >>>>> in 90's. I think Microsoft is still trying to challenge that >>>>> law. The law basically says anything you buy, it yours to do >>>>> with what you please, it even allows them to install the OEM on >>>>> more that one computer. I don't have any links to this. This >>>>> is what I read. Maybe a Canadian citizen reading this can fill us >>>>> in more on the law, I am referring about. >>>> And there doesnt have to be a specific law either. By default you >>>> are welcome to sell what you legally own and if a particular >>>> jurisdiction wants >>>> to cancel that common law right, it needs specific legislation that >>>> does that. >>>> >>>> I'm not aware of even a single first or second world country that >>>> has done that. >> >>> Got several modifiers to the above comment to consider, >> >> Nope, all of these have to be turned into legislation to have any >> legal effect. >> >>> in addition to the prior materials: >> >> Meaningless waffle. >> >>> Free Trade Agreements >>> IPO >>> Treaties >>> BSA >>> IMSTA >>> The Congressional International Anti-Piracy Caucus >>> SPA >>> ACCS >>> CISG - http://www.law-counsel.com/Legal_information/contract_law/ >>> WTO >>> UCC >>> http://www.jus.uio.no/lm/private.international.commercial.law/contract.principles.html >>> CRIA >>> Canadian Copyright Act >>> CAAST >>> ESAC >>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8219652.stm >>> the recent French piracy Law >>> http://search.bbc.co.uk/search?uri=%2F&scope=all&go=toolbar&q=piracy >> >>> So when you indicate that you know of no "first or second world >>> country" doing that, I have to wonder... >> >> Not one of those does anything like that on the issue being >> discussed, what you can legally do with what you own. >> >> Contract law has no relevance what so ever to anyone who isnt party >> to any contract. >> >> > > Yeah, normal Usenet garbage. So do you think anyone actually > believes you other than those also don't have a clue... like you... Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
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