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Rod Speed wrote:
> MEB wrote:
>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>> MEB wrote:
>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> Greg wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:52:57 -0400, Greg <invalid@invalid.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sniped
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is like trying to explain this to my mother.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Windows full installation Oem operating disk (Not system
>>>>>>> builders) can be sold with hardware,  as long a the disk has not
>>>>>>> been installed. So, me buying or selling an OEM xp off of EBAY
>>>>>>> or Amazon is perfectly legal as long as it has not be installed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What cant be sold or given away except with transfer of a
>>>>>>> computer is Oems upgrade disk
>>>>>>> Oems that have been installed.
>>>>>>> Oems that have Windows Vista or W7
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where I got that information,  is from a MVP in the windows xp
>>>>>>> newsgroup.  I do tend to believe a MVP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>> One additional comment.  I was referring to buying and selling in
>>>>>> the U.S.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In Canada, it was ruled that OEMs can be sold without hardware and
>>>>>> it can be sold as used.    It has to do with a law that is passed
>>>>>> in 90's.    I think Microsoft is still trying to challenge that
>>>>>> law. The law basically says anything you buy,  it yours to do
>>>>>> with what you please, it even allows them to install the OEM on
>>>>>> more that one computer.   I don't have any links to this.    This
>>>>>> is what I read. Maybe a Canadian citizen reading this can fill us
>>>>>> in more on the law, I am referring about.
>>>>> And there doesnt have to be a specific law either. By default you
>>>>> are welcome to sell what you legally own and if a particular
>>>>> jurisdiction wants
>>>>> to cancel that common law right, it needs specific legislation that
>>>>> does that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not aware of even a single first or second world country that
>>>>> has done that.
>>>> Got several modifiers to the above comment to consider,
>>> Nope, all of these have to be turned into legislation to have any
>>> legal effect.
>>>
>>>> in addition to the prior materials:
>>> Meaningless waffle.
>>>
>>>> Free Trade Agreements
>>>> IPO
>>>> Treaties
>>>> BSA
>>>> IMSTA
>>>> The Congressional International Anti-Piracy Caucus
>>>> SPA
>>>> ACCS
>>>> CISG - http://www.law-counsel.com/Legal_information/contract_law/
>>>> WTO
>>>> UCC
>>>> http://www.jus.uio.no/lm/private.international.commercial.law/contract.principles.html
>>>> CRIA
>>>> Canadian Copyright Act
>>>> CAAST
>>>> ESAC
>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8219652.stm
>>>> the recent French piracy Law
>>>> http://search.bbc.co.uk/search?uri=%2F&scope=all&go=toolbar&q=piracy
>>>> So when you indicate that you know of no "first or second world
>>>> country" doing that, I have to wonder...
>>> Not one of those does anything like that on the issue being
>>> discussed, what you can legally do with what you own.
>>>
>>> Contract law has no relevance what so ever to anyone who isnt party
>>> to any contract.
>>>
>>>
>> Yeah, normal Usenet garbage. So do you think anyone actually
>> believes you other than those also don't have a clue... like you...
> 
> Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag. 
> 
> 

 You know, you actual COULD become somewhat more intelligent if you
spent some time actually reading the materials related to what I posted..

 Otherwise, anyone who sees this will KNOW that you haven't, because it
ALL is relevant.

 The only bullshit, is yours.

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