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Rod Speed wrote:
> MEB wrote:
>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>> MEB wrote:
>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23PpvN5nPKHA.4244@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23w3tGmnPKHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23nRz5TnPKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Ah, Microsoft runs filters here {so do many of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transfer points},
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your post didn't make it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Here"?  This is usenet.  Microsoft can do what they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damn well please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their server, makes no difference to the majority
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (people who are actually using usenet, not Microsoft's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dumbed down web based forums).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No here, on the master for the forum via NNTP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, even Microsoft calls it a "newsgroup" as distinct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from a web based
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "forum"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no such thing as a "master" on Usenet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No internet browser is required to access any news
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, and WE did this before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You sure aren't going to get the newsgroups without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either a Internet interfaced newsreader, or via direct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download FROM the Internet or its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equivalent and some text based alternative... so your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument is without basis, its still basically the web or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the old style BBS recovery. Or is it you think it just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> magically appears on your computer...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are so pedantic, yet you don't seem to absorb the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> written word? What part of my  "No internet browser is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> required to access any news server" don't you understand?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about you jam your smartarse "you think it just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> magically appears on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your computer..."
>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the sun don't shine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What part of you're using an INTERNET BASED NEWSREADER
>>>>>>>>>>>> addressing the SAME forum don't you understand or do you
>>>>>>>>>>>> think the messages just magically appear in your reader...
>>>>>>>>>>> My "BROWSER" is not open or ACTIVE while I am sending this
>>>>>>>>>>> message on Usenet, you goose.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> NO but your web based newsreader IS, ya duck..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are spoiling your arguments by using the terms web and
>>>>>>>>> Internet interchangably.   Think Internet as being a connection
>>>>>>>>> of multiple networks and the WWW as being an application or
>>>>>>>>> protocol which runs on top of the Internet, as does SMTP, NNTP,
>>>>>>>>> FTP and others.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not really, the protocols used, the "what makes up the
>>>>>>>> Internet", which is referred to generally as the Web,
>>>>>>>> determines what occurs. Without them there is none, not the
>>>>>>>> Internet or the Web, regardless of the term used. Throw in an
>>>>>>>> application, and all the broadcasts, IPs, and other become a
>>>>>>>> usable presentation. The basic difference? The application and
>>>>>>>> protocol.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The issue and misunderstanding seems to be the protocols and
>>>>>>>> their usage, e.g., the application used to connect to the
>>>>>>>> Web/Internet USING a specific protocol. Regardless of the
>>>>>>>> method, it still remains the Web/Internet, only the application
>>>>>>>> and resultant protocol used changes [as do ports and other
>>>>>>>> aspects, but that is a different discussion]. The actual stream
>>>>>>>> [Internet/Web] carries multiple protocols within it; it is the
>>>>>>>> application [and whatever local and distant other requirements
>>>>>>>> need] that determines the "connection" to whatever offered.
>>>>>>> You keep implying that the terms Web/Internet are interchangable.
>>>>>>> They arent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> usenet has NOTHING to do with the web.
>>>>>> Ok, so where are you receiving the newsgroups from
>>>>> You can see that in the headers.
>>>>>
>>>>>> and via what [and I don't mean the app used]?
>>>>> NNTP. Nothing to do with the web.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The Internet is an internet.
>>>>
>>>> The Web is a web.
>>>> The NTTP servers are on the Internet.
>>> But have absolutely nothing to do with any web.
>>>
>>>> The Web is on the Internet.
>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>> web.
>>>
>>>> An intranet may contain an NNTP server and not connect to the
>>>> Internet.
>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>> web.
>>>
>>>> A web may contain messages from a news group.
>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>> web.
>>>
>>>> The Web may contain messages from Usenets, Forums, private
>>>> internets or intranets, News, newsgroups, and news postings.
>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>> web.
>>>
>>>> The Internet contains webs, the Web, newsgroups, News servers, http
>>>> servers, etc...
>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>> web.
>>>
>>>> Now split them from each other...
>>> Just did.
>>>
>>>> its a ludicrous argument...
>>> Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in
>>> front of it.
>>>
>>>> the world changes and so does how its perceived.
>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>> web.
>>>
>>>> Just one more attempt to make Usenet something special...
>>> Nope, just rubbing your pig ignorant nose in the FACT that an NNTP
>>> server has nothing to do with any web.
>>>
>>>> it was originally, now is another matter.
>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>
>>>
>> Well you may have your personal chance to do exactly that, prove me wrong.
> 
> Just did.
> 
>> Of course it will take more than the normal Usenet crap. Your going
>> to have to post info, liks, and all the things required to do so.
> 
> Wrong, as always.
> 
>> What YOU posted means squat.
> 
> You in spades, child. 
> 
> 

 Ah yeah... you didn't ... you couldn't ... and you never will.

 So have you ever done anything in your life worth having you on the
planet for?

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