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MEB wrote:
> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>> MEB wrote:
>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23PpvN5nPKHA.4244@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%23w3tGmnPKHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:%23nRz5TnPKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Ah, Microsoft runs *filters* here {so do many of the
>>>>>>>>>>> transfer points},
>>>>>>>>>>> your post didn't make it...
>>>>>>>>>> "Here"?  This is usenet.  Microsoft can do what they damn
>>>>>>>>>> well please
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> their server, makes no difference to the majority (people
>>>>>>>>>> who are actually using usenet, not Microsoft's dumbed down
>>>>>>>>>> web based forums).
>>>>>>>>> No here, on the master for the forum via NNTP.
>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong, even Microsoft calls it a "newsgroup" as distinct from
>>>>>>>> a web based
>>>>>>>> "forum"
>>>>>>>> There is no such thing as a "master" on Usenet.
>>>>>>>> No internet browser is required to access any news server.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong, and WE did this before.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You sure aren't going to get the newsgroups without either a
>>>>>>> Internet interfaced newsreader, or via direct download FROM the
>>>>>>> Internet or its
>>>>>>> equivalent and some text based alternative... so your argument
>>>>>>> is without basis, its still basically the web or the old style
>>>>>>> BBS recovery. Or is it you think it just magically appears on
>>>>>>> your computer...
>>>>>> You are so pedantic, yet you don't seem to absorb the written
>>>>>> word? What part of my  "No internet browser is required to
>>>>>> access any news server" don't you understand?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about you jam your smartarse "you think it just magically
>>>>>> appears on
>>>>>> your computer..."
>>>>>> where the sun don't shine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> What part of you're using an INTERNET BASED NEWSREADER addressing
>>>>> the *SAME* forum don't you understand or do you think the
>>>>> messages just magically appear in your reader...
>>>> My "BROWSER" is not open or ACTIVE while I am sending this message
>>>> on Usenet, you goose.
>>>>
>>>
>>> NO but your web based newsreader IS, ya duck..
>>>
>>
>> You are spoiling your arguments by using the terms *web* and
>> *Internet* interchangably.   Think Internet as being a connection of
>> multiple networks and the WWW as being an application or protocol
>> which runs on top of the Internet, as does SMTP, NNTP, FTP and
>> others.
>>
>
> Not really, the protocols used, the "what makes up the Internet",
> which is referred to generally as the Web, determines what occurs.
> Without them there is none, not the Internet or the Web, regardless
> of the term used. Throw in an application, and all the broadcasts,
> IPs, and other become a usable presentation. The basic difference?
> The application and protocol.
>
> The issue and misunderstanding seems to be the protocols and their
> usage, e.g., the *application* used to connect to the Web/Internet
> USING a specific protocol. Regardless of the method, it still remains
> the Web/Internet, only the application and resultant protocol used
> changes [as do ports and other aspects, but that is a different
> discussion]. The actual stream [Internet/Web] carries multiple
> protocols within it; it is the application [and whatever local and
> distant other requirements need] that determines the "connection" to
> whatever offered.

You keep implying that the terms Web/Internet are interchangable. They arent.

usenet has NOTHING to do with the web.