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Rod Speed wrote:
> MEB wrote:
>> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>>> MEB wrote:
>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23PpvN5nPKHA.4244@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:%23w3tGmnPKHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:%23nRz5TnPKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Ah, Microsoft runs *filters* here {so do many of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> transfer points},
>>>>>>>>>>>> your post didn't make it...
>>>>>>>>>>> "Here"?  This is usenet.  Microsoft can do what they damn
>>>>>>>>>>> well please
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> their server, makes no difference to the majority (people
>>>>>>>>>>> who are actually using usenet, not Microsoft's dumbed down
>>>>>>>>>>> web based forums).
>>>>>>>>>> No here, on the master for the forum via NNTP.
>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wrong, even Microsoft calls it a "newsgroup" as distinct from
>>>>>>>>> a web based
>>>>>>>>> "forum"
>>>>>>>>> There is no such thing as a "master" on Usenet.
>>>>>>>>> No internet browser is required to access any news server.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong, and WE did this before.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You sure aren't going to get the newsgroups without either a
>>>>>>>> Internet interfaced newsreader, or via direct download FROM the
>>>>>>>> Internet or its
>>>>>>>> equivalent and some text based alternative... so your argument
>>>>>>>> is without basis, its still basically the web or the old style
>>>>>>>> BBS recovery. Or is it you think it just magically appears on
>>>>>>>> your computer...
>>>>>>> You are so pedantic, yet you don't seem to absorb the written
>>>>>>> word? What part of my  "No internet browser is required to
>>>>>>> access any news server" don't you understand?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How about you jam your smartarse "you think it just magically
>>>>>>> appears on
>>>>>>> your computer..."
>>>>>>> where the sun don't shine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> What part of you're using an INTERNET BASED NEWSREADER addressing
>>>>>> the *SAME* forum don't you understand or do you think the
>>>>>> messages just magically appear in your reader...
>>>>> My "BROWSER" is not open or ACTIVE while I am sending this message
>>>>> on Usenet, you goose.
>>>>>
>>>> NO but your web based newsreader IS, ya duck..
>>>>
>>> You are spoiling your arguments by using the terms *web* and
>>> *Internet* interchangably.   Think Internet as being a connection of
>>> multiple networks and the WWW as being an application or protocol
>>> which runs on top of the Internet, as does SMTP, NNTP, FTP and
>>> others.
>>>
>> Not really, the protocols used, the "what makes up the Internet",
>> which is referred to generally as the Web, determines what occurs.
>> Without them there is none, not the Internet or the Web, regardless
>> of the term used. Throw in an application, and all the broadcasts,
>> IPs, and other become a usable presentation. The basic difference?
>> The application and protocol.
>>
>> The issue and misunderstanding seems to be the protocols and their
>> usage, e.g., the *application* used to connect to the Web/Internet
>> USING a specific protocol. Regardless of the method, it still remains
>> the Web/Internet, only the application and resultant protocol used
>> changes [as do ports and other aspects, but that is a different
>> discussion]. The actual stream [Internet/Web] carries multiple
>> protocols within it; it is the application [and whatever local and
>> distant other requirements need] that determines the "connection" to
>> whatever offered.
> 
> You keep implying that the terms Web/Internet are interchangable. They arent.
> 
> usenet has NOTHING to do with the web. 
> 
> 

Ok, so where are you receiving the newsgroups from and via what [and I
don't mean the app used]?

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