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Article #200Re: License discussion was How do you to tell if you windows 98se is legal?
From: Jeff Richards
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46
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"Greg" <invalid@invalid.net> wrote in message news:7i56vqF2tmoa6U1@mid.individual.net... > On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:09:35 -0400, 98 Guy <98@Guy.com> wrote: > > snip < Some of that information is wrong. > New windows Oems operating system (Except Vista and w7) can be sold > with Hardware. For W98, the OEM re-seller's agreement with MS allows them to provide the software only as part of a software/hardware package (_must_ be sold with hardware, not _can_). > Used Oems operating systems can not be sold at all. A system (hardware and software) can be transferred (either as a gift or as a sale) provided that the conditions set out in the EULA are met. Roughly, this means that the whole package (software, hardware, documents etc) as originally purchased is transferred and no part of the package is retained. In some specific cases (eg, US Government purchases) there is legislation or other agreements woth MS that modify this requirement somewhat, but not in any significant way. > New Oems can be installed on any computer. If you mean that the re-seller (the organisation that has an OEM agreement with MS) can package the OEM software with any computer they sell, that's correct. But when that package is sold the software is then tied to the computer with which it was originally packaged. This creates a bit of a problem where the re-seller has stretched the original rule somewhat and the software was provided with hardware on which it could not actually be installed, or hardware that is only part of a system (such as a disk drive). In this case, the presumption is that the software can be installed only on a machine where the hardware is used (but considering that the OEM re-seller was probably acting outside his agreement with MS anyway, it's only a guess as to what the real rule is). > Oems are tied to the > computer once they are installed, stay with the computer, not > necessarily the person or business. OEM software is tied to the computer it was sold with. That package can be sold and transferred under conditions set out in the EULA, as mentioned above. There are two important things you need to be aware of about OEM software 1. If a vendor is selling it without hardware, they are in breach of their agreement with MS. This doesn't worry you as the purchaser _except_ that it might indicate that it's not actually an OEM copy at all, or that the dealer might not be authorised to deal in OEM software. For instance, the vendor might be providing a single key for every copy that he sells because MS has cancelled his OEM agreement and has stopped roviding new product keys, and this creates a risk (for some operating systems) that MS will not validate it. 2. OEM copies are generally not usable as a 'qualifying product' for upgrades. This has been mentioned elsewhere, and is the only point that is relevant to your current problem of whether or not you can purchse the upgrade version of XP istead of the full version. If your W98 copy is OEM, you probably cannot use it as a qualifying product for the upgrade version of XP. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
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