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Charlie Mingo (mingo@panix.com) wrote:
: In article <Cn8tx6.76n@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>,
: rjwells@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Justin Wells) wrote:

: Yoo hoo: earth to Justin!  There is no Canadian legal tradition of
: adjudicating people's rights without giving them notice and an opportunity to
: be heard.  This is a basic concept which is guaranteed (among other places) in
: Section 7 of the Canadian Charter of Rights.  The Ontario government was
: flouting this elementary principle when they argued the media had no standing
: to appeal the ban.

: > >Whoopee!  SO, do you mean the Canadian
: > >legal system has been violating the rights of its citzens since before
: > >1776?  You're right.  And the nascent American government was violating
: > >them too.  That's not the point.  Not at all.
: > 
: > Nope.  The issue here is which of two conflicting rights is most important.
: > In America you chose to guarantee the right of the collective (public/media)
: > whereas in Canada we chose to stand up for the rights of the individual(the
: > rights of the accused).

: Justin: the "amusing concept" being criticed was not the ban itself, but
: rather the Ontario government's argument that the media should not be allowed
: to appeal a court order they were required to obey.  You know, due process and
: all that.

The crown as the one part of the party has to justify the arugment in 
front of a juge, where if eather party doesn't agree with can appeal. Is 
that what you mean by due process???? Well in that case that is just what 
happens here. The media, ie. CBC and Macleans went in fronm of a judge to 
aruge the mirets of the case, the gov't tried to say that they should be 
allowed, but to no avail, the ban  stands, but not because of the media  
lack of effort. The only person that wasn't allowed to repersent any info 
to the juge was a lawyer repersenting an american media interest

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