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In article <RJk3Jc2w165w@hakatac.almanac.bc.ca>,
steve deluca <steve@hakatac.almanac.bc.ca> wrote:

>The rights of the individual? We have the rights of Paul Teale 
>versus the rights of me. I have never been accused of murder.

And if you are accused of a murder I suppose that means you really
did it, and therefore you don't deserve to have any rights?  C'mon.

Paule Teale's rights are my rights, and whatever I think of Paul Teale,
I won't stand by and watch his rights get trod on.


>Or versus the rights of you. What about our right to freedom of
>speech? Should the accused right to a fair trial supercede the
>right of the un-accused to freedom on speech?

Definately.  The accused is innocent until proven guilty.  The accused
is the lone person singled out by the state -- they need all the help
they can get.  You, me, and everyone else are "the collective" in
this case -- when it comes down to the rights of the collective versus
the rights of the individual, I like it best when the individual wins.

When you start saying that the rights of the majority outweigh the
rights of the minority you start crushing people who get in your way.


>The lies of Gun Control advocates will soon make us all incapable of
>defending our country against tyranny from government, Candadian
>or World. Our right to self-defense is almost gone. Canada is possibly
>on the road to subjugation to a UN world government and when gun
>control is complete, we will be twiddling our thumbs, waiting for the
>sound of jackboots on the front porch.

Huh?  Did I mention gun control?  Or is that just your all-purpose 
devil word?  Subjugation by a UN world government?  Your psychiatrist
must be on holiday or something.


>       Myths of Gun Control:

[Lots of stuff deleted.]

>So Justin, don't forget about the rights of law-abiding citizens
>when you discuss the issue of rights.

Somewhere once I heard something about "innocent until proven guilty"
and it kind of sounded like a good idea.


Justin
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Justin Wells  (rjwells@uwaterloo.ca, stem@io.org)

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