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Article #288Re: WiReD: just bad journalism re: Homolka info on Internet
From: jason n gull
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 16:02
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 16:02
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JWELLS@ARTSPAS.watstar.uwaterloo.ca wrote: > >>What I found especially amusing, was the claim by the Canadian Crown >>prosecutor that the press had no standing to challenge the ban, but they >>were still bound to obey it. I found this a rather novel legal concept. > >I find this somewhat offensive. It's hardly a "novel legal concept" -- >in fact it is a legal concept that predates America, or even knowledge >of North America. Inherent in your statement is the attitude: "The >American legal system is the first and only legal system of any value. >If you do anything different than we do in America it's just no good." > >There is no sensible way the Canadian and American legal systems can be >compared. They have a completely different constitutional basis, and serve >completely different functions within society. > >With respect to the publication ban probably the most important difference >is that in the Canadian legal system we don't lock up the jury as if they >were prisoners. They're free to go home to their families at the end of the >day and watch TV. They can even continue working at their job as long as >they show up in court when they're supposed to. > >Given that we don't treat our juries as criminals we have to worry a lot >more that they don't get biased by news reports. In sensitive trials in >America the jury is locked away and not allowed any contact with the outside >world -- so you can afford not to care what the newspapers do. But in >Canada the jury deciding over the fate of the accused can and will see and >read anything that is published about the case. If there is some >information that would seriously bias the case, then it makes sense to ban >it in order to protect the rights of the accused. > > >Justin Wells >------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > >Enhanced 911 Services >a.k.a. stem@io.org >a.k.a. stem@sizone.pci.on.ca Frankly Justin, I find this entire post rather petty, and "offensive." You're trying to defend the Canadian legal system-- great. But it simply assinine to defend the Homolka/Teale media ban with some "you Imperialist Americans just don't understand our ways-- but we've been doing things this way since before there was an America." Whoopee! SO, do you mean the Canadian legal system has been violating the rights of its citzens since before 1776? You're right. And the nascent American government was violating them too. That's not the point. Not at all. While the American press may in most cases function as a bunch of lackeys for the large corporations that control the media, with very few exceptions, (American) Constitutional guarantees of press freedom have been upheld (though don't get me started-- those "very few" exceptions are too many, and too awful-- take the SJG case for example.) What's amazing to me is that the very countries to which many Americans turn for reporting that is less biased toward corporate America, where the press is supposedly free from much of the intervention that dominates the American press, are nations whose laws *do not* respect the freedom of the press, and whose people seem powerless, or too apathetic, to change the government's anti-information policies. I'm talking specifically about Canada and the United Kingdom. We 'Mare-cans think the CBC and BBC are cultured outposts of purest truth, while the governments supporting these news organizations actively prevent them from reporting on specific issues-- generally issues which show the government in a bad light. In Britain, the Official Secrets Act, plus the ban on allowing "terrorists" to express their viewpoints on radio and TV thwarts any attempt at informed public debate about the *issues* behind, say, the IRA/ Ulster conflict, or the issue of Palestine. It also makes any espianage- related case into a closed-door session the KGB would be proud of. The Canadian govt. apparently wishes no better for its citizens. The ban is not a result of the benevolent government's concern for Homolka jurors. It's a result of the Canadian government's desire to work behind closed doors, to prevent Canadian citizens (and Americans as well) from finding out how the government-- the Homolka/Teale prosecution in this case-- actually works. If those who support the ban wish to criticize the American press for its frequent complacency on a variety of issues, be my guest. I will most likely agree. However, the arguments put forth by Justin Wells et al.-- that we Americans just don't understand those strange-yet-noble Canadian ways are ridculous. You sound almost exactly like the apologists for human rights violations and government corruption in Malaysia, who were squared off against the BBC a few weeks ago. Their complaint? The BBC criticized Malaysia, so Malaysia was not going to do trade with British businesses. They, too, said the western news organizations did not understand Malaysian customs and traditions, and had insulted the government, and there- fore, the people, of Malaysia. I am not criticizing Canadians as a people. But I am criticizing their government's actions in this case, and the complacency of a great many Canadians who think that sacrificing their freedom for a small degree of imagined safety is a justifiable decision. Jason Gull jgull@world.std.com
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