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Re: Altopia announces SSL and unthrottled service

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From: George G
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:20
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"Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote in
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> On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:49:21 -0000, George G
> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: 
> 
>> %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote in
>> news:1ie5pnf.40a1jt1ny3nb3N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk:
>>
>>> George G <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chris Caputo <ccaputo@alt.net> wrote in
>>>> news:1np63u.7ve.19.1@news.alt.net:
>>>>
>>>> > bealoid <signup@bealoid.co.uk> writes:
>>>> >>Chris Caputo <ccaputo@alt.net> wrote in
>>>> >>news:1nkaod.fks.17.1@news.alt.net: [snip]
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Accusations of abuse which are not in violation of our
>>>> >>> policies are generally ignored.  Sometimes I reply to a
>>>> >>> complainer, but normally if they have not taken the
>>>> >>> time to understand our policies, I do not bother.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Happy to answer any other questions,
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Do you have any kind of "Don't frequently nymshift to
>>>> >>evade kill-files" policy?
>>>> >
>>>> > No.
>>>> >
>>>> >>eg If a troll was nym-shifting several times a day to
>>>> >>disrupt a news group would you ask them to stop?
>>>> >
>>>> > No.
>>>> >
>>>> > As long as a poster isn't infringing on someone else's
>>>> > real email address or domain, they can be creative and
>>>> > set their From: address as they like, and vary it as they
>>>> > want. 
>>>> >
>>>> > Chris Caputo
>>>> > President, Altopia Corporation
>>>>
>>>> I've seen many a perfectly good newsgroup ruined by your
>>>> customers thanks to that policy. Usenet is hardly worth
>>>> bothering with now and you are largely to blame for that.
>>>> You must be very proud.
>>>
>>> I don't know why this got cross-posted to unnc, since it
>>> seems to originate elsewhere. However I find it mildly
>>> amusing that someone posting as George G
>>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> should be complaining about what
>>> other users stick in their From: address. It also seems from
>>> here that George G has cross-posted a message in order to
>>> stir up trouble or to harvest howls of outrage at a
>>> statement made by Chris Caputo. Again, hardly impeccable
>>> behaviour. 
>>>
>>> FWIW, I've supported Altopia for some time. I disagree
>>> profoundly with the trolls and newsgroup wreckers who want
>>> to drive other users off usenet or to reduce groups to a
>>> smoking wasteland of cascades or kilobytes of re-posed ASCII
>>> art. However I can't blame Chris Caputo for that. It's the
>>> immature individuals concerned that are the root of the
>>> problem and often their "opponents" such as George G are in
>>> exactly the same boat.
>>>
>>> I've found that for genuine net abuse concerns Chris has
>>> been unfailingly polite and helpful. Much more so than say
>>> NTL or BT.
>>
>> The point is that Chris Caputo allows his trolling customers
>> to nym-shift with impunity. That destroys newsgroups. If you
>> don't like what I write, killfile me. I won't nym-shift to
>> defeat the filter.
> 
> If he started killing accounts for that, where would he draw
> the line?  What about people using the word "fuck"? 

Did you pass the Altnet intelligence test too?
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Subject: Re: Altopia announces SSL and unthrottled service
From: George G <invalid@invalid.invalid>
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