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Article #177Re: Altopia announces SSL and unthrottled service
From: George G
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:20
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:20
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"Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote in news:op.t8dwt9wv4buhsv@fx62: > On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:49:21 -0000, George G > <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote in >> news:1ie5pnf.40a1jt1ny3nb3N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk: >> >>> George G <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> Chris Caputo <ccaputo@alt.net> wrote in >>>> news:1np63u.7ve.19.1@news.alt.net: >>>> >>>> > bealoid <signup@bealoid.co.uk> writes: >>>> >>Chris Caputo <ccaputo@alt.net> wrote in >>>> >>news:1nkaod.fks.17.1@news.alt.net: [snip] >>>> >> >>>> >>> Accusations of abuse which are not in violation of our >>>> >>> policies are generally ignored. Sometimes I reply to a >>>> >>> complainer, but normally if they have not taken the >>>> >>> time to understand our policies, I do not bother. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Happy to answer any other questions, >>>> >> >>>> >>Do you have any kind of "Don't frequently nymshift to >>>> >>evade kill-files" policy? >>>> > >>>> > No. >>>> > >>>> >>eg If a troll was nym-shifting several times a day to >>>> >>disrupt a news group would you ask them to stop? >>>> > >>>> > No. >>>> > >>>> > As long as a poster isn't infringing on someone else's >>>> > real email address or domain, they can be creative and >>>> > set their From: address as they like, and vary it as they >>>> > want. >>>> > >>>> > Chris Caputo >>>> > President, Altopia Corporation >>>> >>>> I've seen many a perfectly good newsgroup ruined by your >>>> customers thanks to that policy. Usenet is hardly worth >>>> bothering with now and you are largely to blame for that. >>>> You must be very proud. >>> >>> I don't know why this got cross-posted to unnc, since it >>> seems to originate elsewhere. However I find it mildly >>> amusing that someone posting as George G >>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> should be complaining about what >>> other users stick in their From: address. It also seems from >>> here that George G has cross-posted a message in order to >>> stir up trouble or to harvest howls of outrage at a >>> statement made by Chris Caputo. Again, hardly impeccable >>> behaviour. >>> >>> FWIW, I've supported Altopia for some time. I disagree >>> profoundly with the trolls and newsgroup wreckers who want >>> to drive other users off usenet or to reduce groups to a >>> smoking wasteland of cascades or kilobytes of re-posed ASCII >>> art. However I can't blame Chris Caputo for that. It's the >>> immature individuals concerned that are the root of the >>> problem and often their "opponents" such as George G are in >>> exactly the same boat. >>> >>> I've found that for genuine net abuse concerns Chris has >>> been unfailingly polite and helpful. Much more so than say >>> NTL or BT. >> >> The point is that Chris Caputo allows his trolling customers >> to nym-shift with impunity. That destroys newsgroups. If you >> don't like what I write, killfile me. I won't nym-shift to >> defeat the filter. > > If he started killing accounts for that, where would he draw > the line? What about people using the word "fuck"? Did you pass the Altnet intelligence test too?
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