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On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:40:45 +0100, (akula) <akula@sharks.plc.ltd> wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 14:21:53 +0100, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 06:45:56 +0100, (akula) <akula@sharks.plc.ltd> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:18:53 +0000 (UTC), Chris Caputo
>>> <ccaputo@alt.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com> writes:
>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:36:29 +0100,  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would think so: I've noticed articles expiring at different times in
>>>>> the same group.
>>>>
>>>> Correct.  Our expiration times are not based on group name, but rather are
>>>> based on article type (text/binary/size/# of parts).  For example, a text
>>>> message posted to alt.binaries.x will last as long as a text message
>>>> posted to alt.test.
>>>
>>> Did you ever stop to think just how stupid that is?  IF your servers
>>> ever attain two years text retention, that means that if one were to
>>> download headers from, say, alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc.0-day two years
>>> from now, they would see a million REQ: dating back up to two
>>> years...just as an example.  Who the frig wants to waddle through all
>>> those expired text posts?
>>>
>>> I guess people have come to expect such moronic reasoning from you,
>>> Chris.  That's just one of many reasons why your NSP is third-rate.
>>
>> There are groups containing both chat and images.
>
> You're a fast learner, Chris.  They're called binary groups.
>
>> Why remove the chat before necessary?
>
> "Before necessary" what?  You get an 'F' in English.

Short for "before it is necessary to do so", ffs.

> People that regularly follow any binary group (I suppose you're
> referencing the many picture groups, whether porn or otherwise) read
> the chit-chat and they're done with it, especially considering that
> the vast majority of "chat" in a binary group consists of REQ:.
>
> Once that REQ: is filled, there is no need to retain the text.  Even
> still, most binary groups are comprised of an ever-changing population
> of posters and leechers.  That fact renders most 'conversations' in
> such groups meaningless after a few months at the most.
>
> Besides, most downloaders don't give a rat's ass about what some moron
> named RedDog who posts from a Verizon account thinks.  They are there
> to download pics and videos.
>
> Most busy binary groups or hierarchies, such as the .mp3 and warez
> hierarchies have their own discussion groups.  Many of the major porn
> groups have their own discussion groups, as do the mainstream movie
> groups, etc.
>
> Given all the above, there is absolutely *no* reason to retain text in
> any binary group longer than the binary files themselves.  To do so
> would only serve to clutter up a BINARY group whose only purpose is to
> provide a means of sharing BINARY files, not text.

Some groups aren't binary or text, they are BOTH.

> People don't subscribe to a BINARY group to look at the rants and
> raves of a control-freak named RedDog.  In such an instance, one DAY
> of retention is too long...and you would like to retain such idiocy
> for two YEARS or longer?
>
> As you are so fond of saying, Chris, once the reason(s) for
> subscribing to a group no longer exist, it will die (loose
> translation).  Clutter up a binary group with tons of old, meaningless
> text files dating back two years or longer and see what happens.

How about looking for a solution to a problem with something in one of the many microsoft.* groups for example?

> That is why first-rate NSPs expire text files along with binary files.
> Trust me, the issue has been well-thought out and researched by news
> admins with far superior intellects to yours, Chris.

If he set everything to expire at the same time, I'd most likely leave for another provider.  I don't want the text disappearing very quickly just so people can get binaries for longer.  I might be on holiday for a couple of weeks for example.

P.S. is your brain too small to fit two people in there?  I ain't Chris and never have been, you're almost as dimwitted as the two trolls in here.

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