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On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:05:58 -0500, "Gregory Hall"
<greghall@home.fake> wrote:

>
><noway@jose.com> wrote in message 
>news:56p4l4peofjog3jom8legj60olrf9e33sf@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:17:36 -0500, "Gregory Hall"
>> <greghall@home.fake> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>><noway@jose.com> wrote in message
>>>news:ioh4l458rqi4nbhsbcch0b7r8lkhvg0hk7@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:12:52 -1000, Habib <Habib@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Seeing the same problem in most of the video groups.
>>>>>Other servers do not seem to be having the same problem.
>>>>
>>>> I just checked the Altopia status page on the web and according to it
>>>> all systems are go and running fine as of today.  Surely there aren't
>>>> that many uploaders having problems with their newsgroup providers.
>>>
>>>
>>>Altopia stands head and shoulders above all the others.
>>>
>>>Generally you will find the fault lies with the "free newsservers." Taken 
>>>as
>>>a whole they are little more than amateur attempts to provide professional
>>>service and they are lacking more often than not. If you want to download
>>>binaries you have to pay or else you spend the majority of your time
>>>frustrated because of incompletes. Even some of the lower tier pay servers
>>>(octanews comes to mind of late) seem to have chronic problems with
>>>incompletes as evidenced by posts to their support group.
>>>
>>>It's unfortunate that inept, amateur free NSPs have gotten numerous enough
>>>that they now seem to be giving ALL NSPs a bad name. The good folks at 
>>>NANA
>>>and NANU need to look into this problem because if there's a case of REAL
>>>abuse of the network it's these amateur NSPs wreaking havoc with the 
>>>network
>>>while they pretend to be something that actually does the job.
>>
>> Sorry, I'm having a hard time believing that all of a sudden in the
>> last few days people all across usenet have started posting thousands
>> upon thousands of uploads through free newsgroup providers resulting
>> in massive incompletes on Altopia.
>>
>> Yes Altopia has been a fantastic usenet resource with few if any
>> incompletes, until the last few days.  I may be proven wrong but at
>> this point I'm not buying the 'free news service' theory.
>
>
>Well, on the other hand, it could have something to do with the long-planned 
>and massive Usenet ddos attacks that were slated to happen around Christmas 
>time. But, I wouldn't know anything specific about them, really. I suppose 
>it's a continuation of the ongoing war between hackers and established, 
>perceived centers of power and authority.
>
>Altopia is one of the best, if not the best, NSP in existence today but 
>there's little they can do but pass on what they receive. If what they 
>receive is crap then there's not much they can do about it. G.I.G.O.! The 
>way Usenet is peered these days this is an unfortunate reality. The good guy 
>servers try to support and enhance the not so good but what it all boils 
>down to is the lowest common denominator sets the height of the bar.

I just ran a quick check in 3 different types of newsgroups (music and
movies).  I found many incompletes coming from Giganews, Hitnews, and
some place I assume is in the Netherlands called eweka.nl.

Hope this helps.