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Re: Why is there so many incomplete articles?

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From: Gregory Hall
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:36
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> "Gregory Hall" <greghall@home.fake> wrote in message 
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>> <noway@jose.com> wrote in message 
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>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:12:52 -1000, Habib <Habib@...> wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>Seeing the same problem in most of the video groups.
>>>>Other servers do not seem to be having the same problem.
>>>
>>> I just checked the Altopia status page on the web and according to it
>>> all systems are go and running fine as of today.  Surely there aren't
>>> that many uploaders having problems with their newsgroup providers.
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>> Altopia stands head and shoulders above all the others.
>>
>> Generally you will find the fault lies with the "free newsservers." Taken 
>> as a whole they are little more than amateur attempts to provide 
>> professional service and they are lacking more often than not. If you 
>> want to download binaries you have to pay or else you spend the majority 
>> of your time frustrated because of incompletes. Even some of the lower 
>> tier pay servers (octanews comes to mind of late) seem to have chronic 
>> problems with incompletes as evidenced by posts to their support group.
>>
>> It's unfortunate that inept, amateur free NSPs have gotten numerous 
>> enough that they now seem to be giving ALL NSPs a bad name. The good 
>> folks at NANA and NANU need to look into this problem because if there's 
>> a case of REAL abuse of the network it's these amateur NSPs wreaking 
>> havoc with the network while they pretend to be something that actually 
>> does the job.
>>
>> -- 
>> Gregory Hall
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>
> AIOE was certainly the cause of a lot of this with their stupid useless 
> filters which backfired and loused up everything. Why would they even 
> consider filtering when usenet is supposed to be an open forum?
>

I know. I've been harping on this theme for quite some time now. These 
amateur free newsservers being used as experiments to test out some lame, 
amateur admin's even more lame conceptions about how Usenet should work are 
messing the whole thing up for everybody. They've now got to the point where 
they are an obvious drag upon professional, well-run pay NSPs. The pros 
haven't helped their own cause either by their well-meaning support for 
freebies that continue to screw up the works.

For this I entirely blame the putzes at NANA and NANU who have their 
collective heads up their asses and seem to be ineffective because they 
refuse to take action to save the network from real network abuse at the 
hands of lamer amateur admins who think they can operate with impunity with 
so many filters and petty rules and regulations that they have become like a 
virus infecting the network from the bottom and permeating all the way to 
the top echelons with their rot and corruption.

Instead, the efforts are still aimed at individual network users who want to 
post uncensored messages that do no harm whatsoever. Until and unless those 
who have some real power over the network realize they are on the wrong 
track entirely and establish some modern standards that actually work and 
that require free news servers to adhere to these standards, the situation 
will become more and more dire. What we have been experiencing during the 
last couple years is only the tip of the iceberg.

--
Gregory Hall
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