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Re: Policy FAQ: cross-posting policy (updated 12/11/98):

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From: Spiro
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:00
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boiled.be@ns.and.carrots says...
>
>Spiro <mr_spiro@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <36748385.1806136834@news.alt.net>, 
>> pjz@alt.alt.alt.alt.alt.net says...
>> >
>> >In <3674a666.119103634@207.14.113.10>, 
>> >jerrywl@hotmail.com (Jerry) wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 13 Dec 1998 01:21:20 GMT, ClassAct@skuz.net wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> >The whole point was a stab at Chris for the new AUP revisions.
>> >> >These people have -0- consideration for anyone but themselves,
>> >> >and will fuck over whomever they have to to get their way.
>> >> 
>> >> ClassAct,
>> >> 
>> >> Can you or some other savvy reader please verify my understanding
>> >> (or lack thereof) of recent events?
>> >> 
>> >> A person who disagrees with the amount of freedom Altopia gives
>> >> it's users got an Altopia account.
>> >> 
>> >> That person pushed the limits of that freedom in a particular
>> >> area for the purpose of causing that freedom to be limited.
>> >> 
>> >That is only some of it.  There is one other Altopia user whose
>> >reasons I am not sure of who used Altopia for heavy bot posting.
>> >Also, some customers have just basically been behaving annoyingly 
>> >in several newsgroups.  Together, they have all drawn a great
>> >amount of complaint mail into Altopia's abuse mailbox.
>> >
>> And to that I'd add: it would appear that at least one poster who
>> used Altopia for 'bot flooding of newsgroups, and who was given the
>> boot, is now the very person filling CC's mailbox with frivolous
>> complaints about other users of Altopia - specifically, those
>> posters the inadequate, paranoid, little twerp perceives to be his
>> enemies. Unfortunately CC would appear to be either unwilling or
>> unable to discern frivolous complaints from genuine ones. 
>
>These words were written by Chris Caputo to Tim Thorne:
>
>   \-----------quote-----------\
>
>        When you get right down to it, abuse handler people are human 
>        and as humans they find it difficult to not be swayed by
>        things like how much time someone wastes, how insulting they
>        are, how manipulative they are, etc.  For example, I have
>        pondered filtering all complaints from you, yet I have not 
>        yet gone so far as to doing so.  Still it is tempting, because
>        you appear to be submitting complaints for the game of it,
>        rather than with sincere interest in the welfare of Usenet.
>        Instead of filtering, I just tend to ignore your complaints.  
>
>   /----------unquote----------/
>

I dunno, perhaps CC regularly has schizoid breaks from reality. AFAIK, 
he has yet again just warned (like yesterday) one of his customers 
following a complaint from Tim Thorne.

I think the whole problem revolves around CC's arbitary application of 
rules that he appears to be making up on the spot. Many of which 
contradict other parts of the AUP.


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Spiro
 
In <36712bf6.7335066@news.alt.net>, cuchulain@heII-fIame-wars.org
accidently catches sight of himself in a mirror and rants:
       
"Get a dictionary, you need to look up 'hypocrisy'."
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From: mr_spiro@yahoo.com (Spiro)
Subject: Re: Policy FAQ: cross-posting policy (updated 12/11/98):
Date: 1998/12/15
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