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Re: Urgent Issues Far More Serious than Emissions!

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From: Alleycat
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 00:00
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Trish wrote:
> Guess what?  No matter what they say, there will be no real proof that
> this El Nino is causing any real problems for atleast 100 years of
> tracking weather patterns.
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Alleycat wrote:
Heard on the radio today that something like 2600 scientists signed a
petition regarding the weather concerns, which led to this emission
party.  Ten percent were considered "actual  scientists."  The rest
comprised such people as chinese herbalists, doctors, dentists, etc.
etc. and get this-----  Attention world -- GET THIS ----
gynecologists!!!!!   What do gynecologists have to do with gas
emissions?    

I'm not so sure those politicians  didn't just want an excuse for
another fun get-together, followed by a tax increase for next year's
party celebration in some other part of the world.  How many of us
asked for this?    Well, I guess by working on the problems that will
come up in 10 years, nobody has to waste time on the problems of
today.  Just picture them sitting there, having this silly emmission
discussion on something that hasn't even been proven!   The whole
thing probably really got started from that newspaper story about the
flatulance concerns on a plane when they tried to ship a hundred pigs.
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Trish wrote:
> You mean there have *never* been grass fires, in the winter, in the
> entire history of Alberta?  Or, do you mean an 82 yr. old woman has
> never been hospitalized with second degree burns?  I'm not in the mood
> to search either topic,  but I'll bet both have happened before.  May
> have been quite a while ago though.
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Alleycat replied:
Not like this!  Never like this in winter.  Weather patterns are
definitely changing.  And it I-S  rather uncommon for 82 year old
women to get seriously burnt in the middle of grass fires in
"freezing" weather.   At any rate, guess we've had it better than
Russia.  Heard they had 115 below the other day, coldest day in their
recorded history. 
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Trish replied: 
(Re 18 forest fires are burning out of control in Alberta.) 
> I'm sure anyone who lives in California etc...won't have to stretch
> their imaginations very far at all on this one.
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Alleycat wrote:
Do they normally have a lot of forest fires in California when the
weather freezes every night?
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Alleycat wrote earlier:
Because the weather's been freezing, people have  put their hoses in
the garages and allowed them to ice up. Their hoses are now frozen so
they can't use them.
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Trish wrote:
> Uh, I am surprise that people are that, uninformed.  You live in an
> area that is known for it's cold, and they are not draining  their
> hoses before they freeze?
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Alleycat replied:
The weather this year isn't standard.   It's 7 below at night, and 3
above in the day.  It's been like this for  weeks. What would you do
if this continued in your area for weeks on end with no rain and the
grass was so dry it was catching fire and burning homes?  You would
probably roll your hose on the roller and put it in your garage
knowing you would need it again, and you would hope it wouldn't
freeze.   You would probably hate to drag it in the house like I've
been doing -- what a mess!  .You would likely not drain it at that
time, especially if you needed to hook four of them together each time
to make 174 feet.   And if you had underground sprinklers you would
already have blown out the air for winter ($45 cost) and wouldn't want
to repeat that every few days.  The solution isn't as easy as you
think. My hands are a wreck.   Most of my neighbours have just let
their lawns die.  ___________________
Alleycat wrote earlier:
> >The trees have lost their leaves but are still
> >green.  The evergreens are stooping over, thinning out, losing their
> >needles, and gasping and pleading for  water.  Everyone's grass is
> >dead.  <SNIP>
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Trish wrote:
> Wait and see.  This type of "dead" happens in Illinois quite often.
> You will probably be surprised next spring.
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Alleycat wrote:
Interesting, the things you learn from newsgroups.  Hopefully someone
from Illinois can give me some solutions to the hose problem!  (I AM
lucky though to have that  my only worry in life.)
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Trish wrote:
> At this point, all I can think of is (a) relax. and (b)what do you
> think you can do about it anyway?  You can't change mother natures
> given path.
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Alleycat wrote:
Relax?  I don't want to.  I need something to rev up my motor because
it's been as dead lately as the grass.   Well, some of the media are
now warning people on the news that they had better somehow get those
hoses thawed!  At least that's a start.   We know that if it's this
dry now we're going ot have problems in the summer and can prepare for
at least some things -- by using prevention instead of hoping for
cures afterward.
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Mad Scotsman <Hilander@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> It's the signs of the apocalypse.  I suggest that you and Alan Yu get
>down into the bunker ASAP.  Wow, here comes that red horseman now......
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Alleycat wrote:
A bunker?  A bunnnnnker?!!!!!
Approximately a hundred cattle were shot or burnt to death, and
several people lost their homes entirely -- total ash.  They lost
their barns and all their farm land -- right in the middle of the
freezing winter.  After approximately 200 km square of grass burnt,
some magic man from the sky took a puff and blew all the top soil away
and it's now considered a disaster area.  Sounds very organized --
much like the horseman after all.

And you're morbid  suggesting we hide in bunkers!!. That would mean
that  if we weren't smoked to death from grass fires, or frozen from
snow, we would probably just drown from floods,  float to the top of
those bunkers, stick to the ceiling, and rot,  and nobody would notice
until we stunk to high heaven.   Ei there Mad Scotsman, only a MAD
man would think of something so putrid!  I'm sure you would hate to be
one of those outside the bunker having to scoop us up.-- Alleycat
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Trish wrote:
> You know what they say....."You can run, but you can't hide".  Ask
> folks in the Mississippi valley region about moving away from the
> recognized flood plane to a *safer* area.
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Alleycat wrote:
Nostradamus predicted some very frightening things for the States in
May. -- I'm not going to tell you what right now because I'm in a
sadistic mood (which usually means I'll sound cheerful to the rest of
the world.)   Anyway, the way the weather changes are happening I
would venture to guess that particular May will soon arrive.  I
wouldn't want to stick around California bragging about my optimism on
top of bunkers like the Mad Scotsman.  Pessimists might not enjoy as
many beer as optimists, but at least they keep drinking because
they've planned.  It's grrrreat to be a pessimist I must say.

Heh...  heh.... Watch this now.  This is the part I like.  Some poor
perfectionist jerk going to read through this whole ten-page document
(with Steve's margins) and then, just like an old lady who returns a
bad chicken to a store after she's eaten three quarters of it,  he'll
say "But what does this have to do with alt-law-enforcement?  And I'll
tell him this is my newsgroup because I adopted it,   and whether or
not people like it they've adopted me,  and if they have any problems
they can meet me in the alley!  Heh heh heh.
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From: kibblesnbits@teleplanet.net (Alleycat)
Subject: Re: Urgent Issues Far More Serious than Emissions!
Date: 1997/12/18
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