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Article #143Re: Urgent Issues Far More Serious than Emissions!
From: Alleycat
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 00:00
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 00:00
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Trish wrote: > Guess what? No matter what they say, there will be no real proof that > this El Nino is causing any real problems for atleast 100 years of > tracking weather patterns. ____________________________ Alleycat wrote: Heard on the radio today that something like 2600 scientists signed a petition regarding the weather concerns, which led to this emission party. Ten percent were considered "actual scientists." The rest comprised such people as chinese herbalists, doctors, dentists, etc. etc. and get this----- Attention world -- GET THIS ---- gynecologists!!!!! What do gynecologists have to do with gas emissions? I'm not so sure those politicians didn't just want an excuse for another fun get-together, followed by a tax increase for next year's party celebration in some other part of the world. How many of us asked for this? Well, I guess by working on the problems that will come up in 10 years, nobody has to waste time on the problems of today. Just picture them sitting there, having this silly emmission discussion on something that hasn't even been proven! The whole thing probably really got started from that newspaper story about the flatulance concerns on a plane when they tried to ship a hundred pigs. _____________________________ Trish wrote: > You mean there have *never* been grass fires, in the winter, in the > entire history of Alberta? Or, do you mean an 82 yr. old woman has > never been hospitalized with second degree burns? I'm not in the mood > to search either topic, but I'll bet both have happened before. May > have been quite a while ago though. _________________________ Alleycat replied: Not like this! Never like this in winter. Weather patterns are definitely changing. And it I-S rather uncommon for 82 year old women to get seriously burnt in the middle of grass fires in "freezing" weather. At any rate, guess we've had it better than Russia. Heard they had 115 below the other day, coldest day in their recorded history. _________________ Trish replied: (Re 18 forest fires are burning out of control in Alberta.) > I'm sure anyone who lives in California etc...won't have to stretch > their imaginations very far at all on this one. _______________________ Alleycat wrote: Do they normally have a lot of forest fires in California when the weather freezes every night? _______________________. Alleycat wrote earlier: Because the weather's been freezing, people have put their hoses in the garages and allowed them to ice up. Their hoses are now frozen so they can't use them. ____________________ Trish wrote: > Uh, I am surprise that people are that, uninformed. You live in an > area that is known for it's cold, and they are not draining their > hoses before they freeze? ____________________________ Alleycat replied: The weather this year isn't standard. It's 7 below at night, and 3 above in the day. It's been like this for weeks. What would you do if this continued in your area for weeks on end with no rain and the grass was so dry it was catching fire and burning homes? You would probably roll your hose on the roller and put it in your garage knowing you would need it again, and you would hope it wouldn't freeze. You would probably hate to drag it in the house like I've been doing -- what a mess! .You would likely not drain it at that time, especially if you needed to hook four of them together each time to make 174 feet. And if you had underground sprinklers you would already have blown out the air for winter ($45 cost) and wouldn't want to repeat that every few days. The solution isn't as easy as you think. My hands are a wreck. Most of my neighbours have just let their lawns die. ___________________ Alleycat wrote earlier: > >The trees have lost their leaves but are still > >green. The evergreens are stooping over, thinning out, losing their > >needles, and gasping and pleading for water. Everyone's grass is > >dead. <SNIP> ___________________ Trish wrote: > Wait and see. This type of "dead" happens in Illinois quite often. > You will probably be surprised next spring. ____________________ Alleycat wrote: Interesting, the things you learn from newsgroups. Hopefully someone from Illinois can give me some solutions to the hose problem! (I AM lucky though to have that my only worry in life.) _____________________ Trish wrote: > At this point, all I can think of is (a) relax. and (b)what do you > think you can do about it anyway? You can't change mother natures > given path. ______________________ Alleycat wrote: Relax? I don't want to. I need something to rev up my motor because it's been as dead lately as the grass. Well, some of the media are now warning people on the news that they had better somehow get those hoses thawed! At least that's a start. We know that if it's this dry now we're going ot have problems in the summer and can prepare for at least some things -- by using prevention instead of hoping for cures afterward. ----------------------------- Mad Scotsman <Hilander@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > It's the signs of the apocalypse. I suggest that you and Alan Yu get >down into the bunker ASAP. Wow, here comes that red horseman now...... ___________________- Alleycat wrote: A bunker? A bunnnnnker?!!!!! Approximately a hundred cattle were shot or burnt to death, and several people lost their homes entirely -- total ash. They lost their barns and all their farm land -- right in the middle of the freezing winter. After approximately 200 km square of grass burnt, some magic man from the sky took a puff and blew all the top soil away and it's now considered a disaster area. Sounds very organized -- much like the horseman after all. And you're morbid suggesting we hide in bunkers!!. That would mean that if we weren't smoked to death from grass fires, or frozen from snow, we would probably just drown from floods, float to the top of those bunkers, stick to the ceiling, and rot, and nobody would notice until we stunk to high heaven. Ei there Mad Scotsman, only a MAD man would think of something so putrid! I'm sure you would hate to be one of those outside the bunker having to scoop us up.-- Alleycat ________________________ Trish wrote: > You know what they say....."You can run, but you can't hide". Ask > folks in the Mississippi valley region about moving away from the > recognized flood plane to a *safer* area. _______________________ Alleycat wrote: Nostradamus predicted some very frightening things for the States in May. -- I'm not going to tell you what right now because I'm in a sadistic mood (which usually means I'll sound cheerful to the rest of the world.) Anyway, the way the weather changes are happening I would venture to guess that particular May will soon arrive. I wouldn't want to stick around California bragging about my optimism on top of bunkers like the Mad Scotsman. Pessimists might not enjoy as many beer as optimists, but at least they keep drinking because they've planned. It's grrrreat to be a pessimist I must say. Heh... heh.... Watch this now. This is the part I like. Some poor perfectionist jerk going to read through this whole ten-page document (with Steve's margins) and then, just like an old lady who returns a bad chicken to a store after she's eaten three quarters of it, he'll say "But what does this have to do with alt-law-enforcement? And I'll tell him this is my newsgroup because I adopted it, and whether or not people like it they've adopted me, and if they have any problems they can meet me in the alley! Heh heh heh. _______________________
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 113bb0,2b81b36985e56b4c X-Google-Attributes: gid113bb0,public X-Google-Thread: fb58e,2b81b36985e56b4c X-Google-Attributes: gidfb58e,public X-Google-Thread: 10c480,2b81b36985e56b4c X-Google-Attributes: gid10c480,public X-Google-Thread: 122e98,2b81b36985e56b4c X-Google-Attributes: gid122e98,public X-Google-Thread: 10df74,2b81b36985e56b4c X-Google-Attributes: gid10df74,public X-Google-Thread: fd92c,2b81b36985e56b4c X-Google-Attributes: gidfd92c,public X-Google-Thread: 1165e1,2b81b36985e56b4c X-Google-Attributes: gid1165e1,public X-Google-Thread: 10607c,2b81b36985e56b4c X-Google-Attributes: gid10607c,public From: kibblesnbits@teleplanet.net (Alleycat) Subject: Re: Urgent Issues Far More Serious than Emissions! Date: 1997/12/18 Message-ID: <67a22r$5dh@priv-sys04-le0.agt.net> X-Deja-AN: 299212334 References: <674267$6a8@priv-sys04-le0.agt.net> <3496a683.955468070@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <3496D5AC.8AD37B3@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: kibblesnbits@telusplanet.net Organization: TELUS Communications Inc. Newsgroups: att.environmental,government.us.topic.environment.air,ca.environment,sci.environment,talk.environment,uk.environment,alt.building.environment,aus.environment.misc,ca.politics,alt.law-enforcement