🚀 go-pugleaf

On Thu, 18 Dec 1997 03:05:45 GMT, kibblesnbits@teleplanet.net
(Alleycat) wrote:

>Trish wrote:
>> Guess what?  No matter what they say, there will be no real proof that
>> this El Nino is causing any real problems for atleast 100 years of
>> tracking weather patterns.
>____________________________
>Alleycat wrote:
>Heard on the radio today that something like 2600 scientists signed a
>petition regarding the weather concerns, which led to this emission
>party.  Ten percent were considered "actual  scientists."  The rest
>comprised such people as chinese herbalists, doctors, dentists, etc.
>etc. and get this-----  Attention world -- GET THIS ----
>gynecologists!!!!!   What do gynecologists have to do with gas
>emissions?    

Bwahahahaha!  Well, gyno's have some experience with gas
emissions.....on a bad day. ;)


>
>I'm not so sure those politicians  didn't just want an excuse for
>another fun get-together, followed by a tax increase for next year's
>party celebration in some other part of the world.  How many of us
>asked for this?    Well, I guess by working on the problems that will
>come up in 10 years, nobody has to waste time on the problems of
>today. 

There ya go.  Now your on to them.  Nothing like distracting the sheep
from the current issues.

> Just picture them sitting there, having this silly emmission
>discussion on something that hasn't even been proven!   The whole
>thing probably really got started from that newspaper story about the
>flatulance concerns on a plane when they tried to ship a hundred pigs.

Well, if they had shipped them in the form of bacon, it would never
have come up.  Besides, around here, people are reporting on and
selecting committees for the "farm stink" issue.  ie:  Cow farts are
probably one of the most serious reasons we have a hole in the ozone
layer.  Just think of all the years worth of bovine fanny burps that
have not only assaulted our nostrils as we drive by, but have slowly
made their way to the heavens!

>_____________________________
>Trish wrote:
>> You mean there have *never* been grass fires, in the winter, in the
>> entire history of Alberta?  Or, do you mean an 82 yr. old woman has
>> never been hospitalized with second degree burns?  I'm not in the mood
>> to search either topic,  but I'll bet both have happened before.  May
>> have been quite a while ago though.
>_________________________
>Alleycat replied:
>Not like this!  Never like this in winter.  Weather patterns are
>definitely changing.  And it I-S  rather uncommon for 82 year old
>women to get seriously burnt in the middle of grass fires in
>"freezing" weather.   At any rate, guess we've had it better than
>Russia.  Heard they had 115 below the other day, coldest day in their
>recorded history. 
>_________________
>Trish replied: 
>(Re 18 forest fires are burning out of control in Alberta.) 
>> I'm sure anyone who lives in California etc...won't have to stretch
>> their imaginations very far at all on this one.
>_______________________
>Alleycat wrote:
>Do they normally have a lot of forest fires in California when the
>weather freezes every night?

My aunt has lived in California for the last 30+ years, and I can only
recall her mentioning having a few episodes of "frost" in all that
time.  Anyhoo, it doesn't matter how cold the outside temp is.  If you
have something that's nice and dry, and you have a little flame....put
them together and you know what you get.

>_______________________.
>Alleycat wrote earlier:
>Because the weather's been freezing, people have  put their hoses in
>the garages and allowed them to ice up. Their hoses are now frozen so
>they can't use them.
>____________________
>Trish wrote:
>> Uh, I am surprise that people are that, uninformed.  You live in an
>> area that is known for it's cold, and they are not draining  their
>> hoses before they freeze?
>____________________________
>Alleycat replied:
>The weather this year isn't standard.   It's 7 below at night, and 3
>above in the day.  It's been like this for  weeks. What would you do
>if this continued in your area for weeks on end with no rain and the
>grass was so dry it was catching fire and burning homes?  You would
>probably roll your hose on the roller and put it in your garage
>knowing you would need it again, and you would hope it wouldn't
>freeze.   


Actually, putting the hose up is standard operating procedure in the
midwest...and I usually have that taken care of by late October.  You
never know when the first freeze will hit, and seeing a nifty frozen
waterfall off the side of the house is not the start to a good day.

>You would probably hate to drag it in the house like I've
>been doing -- what a mess!  .You would likely not drain it at that
>time, especially if you needed to hook four of them together each time
>to make 174 feet.  

Actually, I do drag it in, ...yes it's a "drag" and a mess but it's
what has to be done.  I have three hooked together for about 100 feet
total.  I had to bring the whole mess out two weeks ago when some warm
temps blew in and I finally had a chance to burn leaves.


> And if you had underground sprinklers you would
>already have blown out the air for winter ($45 cost) and wouldn't want
>to repeat that every few days.  The solution isn't as easy as you
>think. My hands are a wreck.   Most of my neighbours have just let
>their lawns die.  ___________________


Do they have fire crews out trying to stop the fires...planes coming
in etc??


>Alleycat wrote earlier:
>> >The trees have lost their leaves but are still
>> >green.  The evergreens are stooping over, thinning out, losing their
>> >needles, and gasping and pleading for  water.  Everyone's grass is
>> >dead.  <SNIP>
>___________________
>Trish wrote:
>> Wait and see.  This type of "dead" happens in Illinois quite often.
>> You will probably be surprised next spring.
>____________________
>Alleycat wrote:
>Interesting, the things you learn from newsgroups.  Hopefully someone
>from Illinois can give me some solutions to the hose problem!  (I AM
>lucky though to have that  my only worry in life.)
>_____________________

Well, I and all my neighbors follow the standard practice I mentioned
above.  Lived in Illinois all of my life, and with the exception of
the southern tip of the state, we all pretty much expect and prepare
for a hard freeze in mid to late October.