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BGDV8 <s343508@student.uq.edu.au> wrote in message news:37CB3A6C.37F0781B@student.uq.edu.au...
> Rod Speed wrote
>> BGDV8 <s343508@student.uq.edu.au> wrote

>>> Trust me...

>> No way.

> My father taught me to never trust anyone who says "trust me",

And some of us can actually notice for ourselves that
anyone says that is about the last one anyone should trust.

> but in this case on the off chance I may be right...

An entirely separate issue to whether anyone should trust you. The
other obvious alternative is to consider what evidence you present etc.

> it's your choice.

It is indeed.

>>> don't stand in front of your microwave while it's cooking...

>> Perfectly safe is you havent done something stupid with the door interlock.

> Not true,

Fraid so.

> many other simple things can cause microwaves to leak... such as:
> slamming the oven door, rust on the oven door, grill or in the oven cavity,
> loose or non-aligned seals, dirt or food particles caught in the door seals
> or hinges, moving the oven around, or just basic wear and tear can all
> cause the oven door to slightly seperate from the oven enclosure.

Mindless waffle. Trivial to use a leakage detector to show that while
that is theoretically true, it aint real life. They are obviously designed
so that that sort of thing doesnt produce harmful leakage levels.

> Once this happens, invisible, but highly dangerous
> microwaves leak through the small space and cause
> irreversible damage and injury to anyone standing nearby.

Complete tripe on your original claim about brains.

Yes, high levels of microwave energy does indeed produce cataracts,
but its quite high levels. There have been some fools who have
deliberately defeated the door interlocks for their convenience
and you still need pretty high levels of exposure to get cataracts.

> The US Professional Service Associates (including
> microwave repairmen) conducted a survey that found over
> 56% of microwave ovens two years or older leaked levels of
> radiation 10% higher than the safety standards set by the FDA.

Says SFA about 'cause irreversible damage and injury to
anyone standing nearby'. Thats just exceeding a particular level.

And there have been plenty of other surveys that have produced nothing
like that result with say domestic microwave ovens. Have found that
very few exceed the legal limit even after years and years of use.

>>> I've seen some of the effects it has on the brain!

> Are you a scientist Rob?

I am actually. Not that its necessary to be one to see that you dont
have a shred of evidence to substantiate that particular claim you made.

> If so you would be aware of the large amount of research
> around at present regarding the difference between thermal and
> non-thermal effects of microwaves on the brain and other organs.

Yes, but YOU havent seen any EFFECTS IT HAS ON THE BRAIN.

And the only proven human health effect even with grossly higher
levels of microwaves than are seen with normal ovens which dont
have their door interlocks defeated, is with cataracts.

>> Like hell you have. And even doing something stupid with the door
>> interlock gives you cataracts, not a meltdown between the ears.

> Numerous independent studies have found microwave radiation
> at these levels can cause skin cancer, headaches and dizziness,
> memory loss, birth defects, blood disorders, temporary sterility
> in men, interference with some (not all) older pacemakers,
> cardiovascular problems, incresed stress, decrease in the
> competency of the immune system, central nervous system
> damage (including the brain) as well as cataract damage.

Bullshit they have with normal microwave ovens.

And that pathetically silly list is just as true for everything
from lack of sleep, losing your job, marital breakup, one
of the kids get caught on drugs, etc etc etc.

>>>> theres probably some small health effect.

>> There is with life too.

> Yes, but this risk can be minimised by not standing
>  front of your microwave oven while it's cooking.

Like hell it can, makes absolutely no difference what so ever
to the risk of that collection you listed whether you stand there
or not. You dont have a shred of evidence to substantiate that
claim. And its very very unlikely when there have been some
fools who have deliberately defeated door interlocks and
havent got anything too dramatic in result.