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Re: Which Linux Certification?

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From: Zebee Johnstone
Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 08:25
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In aus.computers.linux on Sun, 01 Dec 2002 16:00:53 +0800
Mark Addinall <maddinall@iprimus.com.au> wrote:
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>
>What a load of rubbish.  Work place implementation is anything
>other than narrow.  When I get a CV on my desk, it is always "Oh yeah,
>he/she was on that roll-out...".  I hardly ever take notice of
>"Certificate in...blah...blah".
>

And if the poor bugger hasn't got the experience?

If you are trying to break in, then a certificate says at least "got
off his arse".

That's what they are - something to distinguish entry level people
from each other.  

They are also helpful to those trying to change career "I have done
these non-IT things that show I am useful as an employee, and this
shows I can absorb info about computers too"

Major hassle is that there are very few entry level positions.

And a hell of a lot of entry level applicants!

Best way to get an IT job is by word of mouth, by someone else saying
"yeah, they know their stuff, worth the chance".  That could be
someone in the industry already, it might be someone where you work
right now who knows you want to do IT and there's a vacancy in your
company for someone.   Many employers prefer to use employees they
already have rather than go to the difficulty and expense of hiring
someone.  Especially if that person has already been doing IT stuff
for them, acting, unpaid...

If you can't do that, and you don't have the runs on the board, then
work on getting non-IT runs.  Work on that famous "excellent
communicator" thing.  "I have written documentation for these open
source projects, I am a member of Toastmasters to improve my ability
to do presentations and to inform non-technical people, my volunteer
work at the football club has shown me how to deal with people and get
them working together" sort of thing.

You want to stand out.  you want to have them think "OK, this one is
different from the other 300".

Not all jobs are in huge companies.  Lots of them are in small ones.
And even the huge companies can be attracted by a resume that's not a
carbon copy of all the other ones.


Zebee
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From: zebee@zip.com.au (Zebee Johnstone)
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Subject: Re: Which Linux Certification?
Date: 1 Dec 2002 08:25:03 GMT
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