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Article #451Re: To all students about to do university exams :-)
From: Paul Murray
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 00:00
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 00:00
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"Entrepreneur" <tutorsrus@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8s9ihh$f9s$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > The arrogance of man: > > [excerpt from an answer to a Data Communications question]: > > "This number is 1000 times the age of the universe. Of course, the > address space is not flat............................" > > Why is it that scientists think they know everything? They don't. But they do know a hell of a lot more than the semitic goatherders that wrote the bible. They thought the world was flat, you know. The description of the ascension of Christ makes no sense otherwise. > Being a computer science student myself, I find > it particularly offensive > that this statement should arise in an answer to a > Data Communications question. But your post is far worse. As is mine, I suppose. > The western world has seen many great inventions particularly in the > last century. As we head into the future, let us always remember that > God is in control. No he isn't. God is becoming steadily less relevant, except in the middle east where they still think the idea is terribly important and have the wars to prove it. The secularism of Australia is the main thing allowing us to be the tolerant and easygoing place we are. Deeply religious places tend to be shitholes. > God sent his Son to die on a wooden cross for the sake of humanity. Actually, it was a stake. Gr: "Staruos" - "stake". Not "crux". The romans did not invest in carpentry simply to have something to execute people on. The t-shaped cross was not introduced into christainity unitl the 7th century. It's a pagan phallic emblem, of course, although christianity insists on hanging it upside-down in the "limp dick" position. By the way - the "fish" symbol is also a pagan fertility emblem. It' supposed to be hung vertically. > This single sacrifice means that all men can live life to the full. A sacrifice that you get back again after 3 days is hardly a sacrifice. Why would God need to sacrifice himself to himself, to satisfy a debt incurred against himself due to rules that he made? If "sin" is a matter of moral right and wrong, then subtitutionary atonement makes no sense. If a person murders, we do not allow someone to got to prison on his behalf. One of the most important biblical principles of justice is Ezek 18:20 "The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. ". The Christian idea of atonement for moral wrong flies in the face of this. Alternatively, if "sin" is a matter of injury done God which must be compensated for - how can our actions "injure" God? And if he is going to forgive these injuries, why the requirement for an atoning sacrifice? Shouldn't he simply - you know - *forgive* these wrongs done him, as he tells Christains to forgive wrongs done them? > The > Gospel speaks of God's love reaching down to hopeless sinners. Friend, > if you ave not known this love, I urge you to read the Holy Bible, > which is God's word. The Holy Bible is a tissue of plagiarisms from other religions and outright forgeries by the early church. No -one knows who wrote the gospels, so it's all hearsay. > Have you ever felt deep despair when you consider the hopelessness of > life? > Is university life getting you down? > Do not despair. God is everywhere. He knows what's going on. > Having troubles with your boyfriend or girlfriend? THe BIble tells us > how we can build and maintain successful and loving relationships. This is disgusting. How can you froth at the mouth about the terrible ways cults suck people into their systems, when you attempt to make converts in exactly the same way - by preying on lonely people? To the students: dont be fooled by anybody's promise of easy answers. > Our society is saturated with sex. Sex is a beautiful thing and should > be treated with respect. As opposed to the way it is treated in Numbers 31, by order of God. And why does Paul, in Romans, equate all sin with homosexuality? What's his problem? > I'm a hopeless sinner. I continue to struggle from day to day. Apathy > can set in, so can laziness. And if you don't marinate your mind in prayer, bible reading, christian music and fellowship continually, your imaginary God-construct starts to fade and become unreal. Like a leaky canoe, you have to keep it pumped up. That's why christains have that two-dimensional happiness, you know. They spend most of their psychic energy maintaining their internal God-thing, and don't have enough left to feel anything deeply. All strong emotions are reserved for God, everything else is to be regarded with bland unattachment - they are only pilgrims here, after all. This: > As examinations draw near, let us persevere with hope and > remember that it doesn't matter if we pass or fail. is a perfect example. > "Graduate from the university of life and you > will have more wisdom than all PhDs put > together......" What silly arrogance - most of those PhDs graduated from the university of life too, you know. "Entrepreneur" (at least I use my real name, Gutless), why don't you keep this in alt.atheism.holysmoke where it belongs? -------------------------------------------------------------- Repent! Quit your job! Slack off! http://www.users.bigpond.com/pmurray ICQ: 26066755
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