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Right on. Best flame I've read in ages.

James


"Paul Murray" <pmurray@nospam.bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> > The arrogance of man:
> >
> > [excerpt from an answer to a Data Communications question]:
> >
> > "This number is 1000 times the age of the universe. Of course, the
> > address space is not flat............................"
> >
> > Why is it that scientists think they know everything?
>
> They don't. But they do know a hell of a lot more than the semitic
> goatherders that wrote the bible. They thought the world was flat, you
know.
> The description of the ascension of Christ makes no sense otherwise.
>
> > Being a computer science student myself, I find
> > it particularly offensive
> > that this statement should arise in an answer to a
> > Data Communications question.
>
> But your post is far worse. As is mine, I suppose.
>
> > The western world has seen many great inventions particularly in the
> > last century. As we head into the future, let us always remember that
> > God is in control.
>
> No he isn't. God is becoming steadily less relevant, except in the middle
> east where they still think the idea is terribly important and have the
wars
> to prove it. The secularism of Australia is the main thing allowing us to
be
> the tolerant and easygoing place we are. Deeply religious places tend to
be
> shitholes.
>
> > God sent his Son to die on a wooden cross for the sake of humanity.
>
> Actually, it was a stake. Gr: "Staruos" - "stake". Not "crux". The romans
> did not invest in carpentry simply to have something to execute people on.
> The t-shaped cross was not introduced into christainity unitl the 7th
> century. It's a pagan phallic emblem, of course, although christianity
> insists on hanging it upside-down in the "limp dick" position.
>
> By the way - the "fish" symbol is also a pagan fertility emblem. It'
> supposed to be hung vertically.
>
> > This single sacrifice means that all men can live life to the full.
>
> A sacrifice that you get back again after 3 days is hardly a sacrifice.
>
> Why would God need to sacrifice himself to himself, to satisfy a debt
> incurred against himself due to rules that he made?
>
> If "sin" is a matter of moral right and wrong, then subtitutionary
atonement
> makes no sense. If a person murders, we do not allow someone to got to
> prison on his behalf. One of the most important biblical principles of
> justice is Ezek 18:20 "The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall
> not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the
> iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him,
> and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. ". The Christian idea
of
> atonement for moral wrong flies in the face of this.
>
> Alternatively, if "sin" is a matter of injury done God which must be
> compensated for - how can our actions "injure" God? And if he is going to
> forgive these injuries, why the requirement for an atoning sacrifice?
> Shouldn't he simply - you know - *forgive* these wrongs done him, as he
> tells Christains to forgive wrongs done them?
>
> > The
> > Gospel speaks of God's love reaching down to hopeless sinners. Friend,
> > if you ave not known this love, I urge you to read the Holy Bible,
> > which is God's word.
>
> The Holy Bible is a tissue of plagiarisms from other religions and
outright
> forgeries by the early church. No -one knows who wrote the gospels, so
it's
> all hearsay.
>
> > Have you ever felt deep despair when you consider the hopelessness of
> > life?
> > Is university life getting you down?
> > Do not despair. God is everywhere. He knows what's going on.
> > Having troubles with your boyfriend or girlfriend? THe BIble tells us
> > how we can build and maintain successful and loving relationships.
>
> This is disgusting. How can you froth at the mouth about the terrible ways
> cults suck people into their systems, when you attempt to make converts in
> exactly the same way - by preying on lonely people?
>
> To the students: dont be fooled by anybody's promise of easy answers.
>
> > Our society is saturated with sex. Sex is a beautiful thing and should
> > be treated with respect.
>
> As opposed to the way it is treated in Numbers 31, by order of God. And
why
> does Paul, in Romans, equate all sin with homosexuality? What's his
problem?
>
> > I'm a hopeless sinner. I continue to struggle from day to day. Apathy
> > can set in, so can laziness.
>
> And if you don't marinate your mind in prayer, bible reading, christian
> music and fellowship continually, your imaginary God-construct starts to
> fade and become unreal. Like a leaky canoe, you have to keep it pumped up.
> That's why christains have that two-dimensional happiness, you know. They
> spend most of their psychic energy maintaining their internal God-thing,
and
> don't have enough left to feel anything deeply. All strong emotions are
> reserved for God, everything else is to be regarded with bland
> unattachment - they are only pilgrims here, after all.
>
> This:
>
> > As examinations draw near, let us persevere with hope and
> > remember that it doesn't matter if we pass or fail.
>
> is a perfect example.
>
> > "Graduate from the university of life and you
> > will have more wisdom than all PhDs put
> > together......"
>
> What silly arrogance - most of those PhDs graduated from the university of
> life too, you know.
>
> "Entrepreneur" (at least I use my real name, Gutless), why don't you keep
> this in alt.atheism.holysmoke where it
> belongs?
>
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