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Peter Mount wrote:
> Hi
> 
> With anybody trying to start up a small business using
> J2EE and chasing clients is it a good idea to spend
> extra and buy a laptop instead of a desktop? I've had
> differing opinions on this.
> 
> One said that a laptop is essential for displaying
> demo applications to clients in their offices or
> where-ever.
> 
> Another said a laptop can be overkill and would take a
> lot of presentations to pay for itself and that colour
> printouts of the demo app would be more than enough. I
> was told I'd be better off spending the money on a
> good desktop.
> 
> I'm in no hurry but I'm looking at replacing my aging
> Pentium 2-350 desktop after I get this year's tax
> return done. It's six years old and I'll give it to my
> relatives when I get my next confusor.
> 
> I am on a tight budget so if I do get a laptop I'd
> want to make sure it was a justifiable decision. Apart
> from trying to start up my business I'm a part time IT
> student and I'm hoping to do the Sun J2se exam this
> year.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Peter Mount
> info@petermount.au.com


Assuming u earn more than 70k/annum, I think if u get the
laptop off salary sacrifice, it's more cost effective,
from a nett point of view, after tax.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/06/21/1087669906031.html?from=top5&oneclick=true

http://people.smartchat.net.au/kbang/fbt.html

 From a functional point of view, it depends on what u want to do.
It u need to do demos, then there is no discussion, is there?

I think Dell has laptops from $1000!

Hi

Thanks for your reply

I earn less than 40k/annum. I am in a position to claim hardware and 
software as a tax deduction though.

Thanks

Peter Mount
info@petermount.au.com

acalcium wrote:

> 
> 
> Assuming u earn more than 70k/annum, I think if u get the
> laptop off salary sacrifice, it's more cost effective,
> from a nett point of view, after tax.
> 
> http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/06/21/1087669906031.html?from=top5&oneclick=true 
> 
> 
> http://people.smartchat.net.au/kbang/fbt.html
> 
>  From a functional point of view, it depends on what u want to do.
> It u need to do demos, then there is no discussion, is there?
> 
> I think Dell has laptops from $1000!

In article <4283400a_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, info@petermount.au.com 
says...
> Hi
> 
> With anybody trying to start up a small business using
> J2EE and chasing clients is it a good idea to spend
> extra and buy a laptop instead of a desktop? I've had
> differing opinions on this.

Depends on your audience.
If you take a high end laptop along for a demo you can impress them.
You can achieve a similar effect with a memory stick nowadays too.

I have both.

My laptop is the fastest I could buy with 2Gb of RAM, an 80Gb hard drive 
and an extra high capacity battery. It blows the socks of most of the 
hardware my clients have installed and will run all day without the need 
for external power. It impresses people. Thats important sometimes.

I also have the JRE installer on a USB memory stick, along with a 
collection of .jar files and sample data that make up various 
applications. I stick it in *their* hardware and do a demonstration that 
impresses. With this method the question of whether it will run in their 
environment never arises. A suitable USB memory stick costs less than a 
hundred dollars.

Anything that can't read a memory stick shouldn't be running J2EE apps 
anyway but I have a floppy disk with W98 drivers for the memory stick in 
my kit so that isn't a problem either. W95 users and below are living in 
the stone age and need more than my help.

So, by all means buy yourself a $5k laptop *if you want one*.
But if money is tight a hundred dollar memory stick stick will do the 
trick too.

David Moss
personal opinion only

David Moss wrote:
> In article <4283400a_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, info@petermount.au.com 
> says...
> 
>>Hi
>>
>>With anybody trying to start up a small business using
>>J2EE and chasing clients is it a good idea to spend
>>extra and buy a laptop instead of a desktop? I've had
>>differing opinions on this.
> 
> 
> Depends on your audience.
> If you take a high end laptop along for a demo you can impress them.
> You can achieve a similar effect with a memory stick nowadays too.
> 
> I have both.
> 
> My laptop is the fastest I could buy with 2Gb of RAM, an 80Gb hard drive 
> and an extra high capacity battery. It blows the socks of most of the 
> hardware my clients have installed and will run all day without the need 
> for external power. It impresses people. Thats important sometimes.
> 
> I also have the JRE installer on a USB memory stick, along with a 
> collection of .jar files and sample data that make up various 
> applications. I stick it in *their* hardware and do a demonstration that 
> impresses. With this method the question of whether it will run in their 
> environment never arises. A suitable USB memory stick costs less than a 
> hundred dollars.
> 
> Anything that can't read a memory stick shouldn't be running J2EE apps 
> anyway but I have a floppy disk with W98 drivers for the memory stick in 
> my kit so that isn't a problem either. W95 users and below are living in 
> the stone age and need more than my help.
> 
> So, by all means buy yourself a $5k laptop *if you want one*.
> But if money is tight a hundred dollar memory stick stick will do the 
> trick too.
> 
> David Moss
> personal opinion only
> 
> 
> 
> 

Hi

Thanks for the tip. I wouldn't have thought of that myself.

Have a good day

Peter Mount
info@petermount.au.com