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16 total messages Started by Avid Fan Sat, 02 May 2009 12:07
Using USB Wireless sticks with Linux
#789
Author: Avid Fan
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 12:07
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I think I could convince my work to switch over to Linux if I could get 
the wireless card to work.

Linux should be ready to go corporate.

I remember a company called Hasta la Vista that was trying to convert 
corporates to Linux.
Re: Using USB Wireless sticks with Linux
#790
Author: atec 7 7
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 13:01
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Avid Fan wrote:
> I think I could convince my work to switch over to Linux if I could get 
> the wireless card to work.
> 
> Linux should be ready to go corporate.
> 
> I remember a company called Hasta la Vista that was trying to convert 
> corporates to Linux.
Unix is MUCH older than winblows.. nothing to convert people to if they 
know the facts
Re: Using USB Wireless sticks with Linux
#791
Author: Avid Fan
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 13:49
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atec 7 7 wrote:
> Avid Fan wrote:
>> I think I could convince my work to switch over to Linux if I could 
>> get the wireless card to work.
>>
>> Linux should be ready to go corporate.
>>
>> I remember a company called Hasta la Vista that was trying to convert 
>> corporates to Linux.
> Unix is MUCH older than winblows.. nothing to convert people to if they 
> know the facts

Unix is not Linux

I don't know what you mean?  Linux is so close now that many corporates 
are using web based software.

Inability to use USB wireless is a deal breaker.

Fix the USB wireless issue and we have a contender.

Or are we all happy with 1% usage???

http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=4286
Re: Using USB Wireless sticks with Linux
#793
Author: Will Kemp
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 14:24
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Avid Fan wrote:
> I think I could convince my work to switch over to Linux if I could get 
> the wireless card to work.

Which particular wireless card are you referring to?


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Re: Using USB Wireless sticks with Linux
#794
Author: Avid Fan
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 23:19
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Will Kemp wrote:
> Avid Fan wrote:
>> I think I could convince my work to switch over to Linux if I could get 
>> the wireless card to work.
> 
> Which particular wireless card are you referring to?
> 
> 
Yes I see your point some information would be useful.

OK I am specifically referring to the Telstra 7 Series Next G HSUPA USB 
modem made by www.zte.com.au.

I am running Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04  on a Tossiba satellite dual AMD 64
Re: Using USB Wireless sticks with Linux
#795
Author: Zebee Johnstone
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 23:27
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In aus.computers.linux on Sat, 02 May 2009 23:19:25 GMT
Avid Fan <user@example.net> wrote:
> Yes I see your point some information would be useful.
>
> OK I am specifically referring to the Telstra 7 Series Next G HSUPA USB 
> modem made by www.zte.com.au.

If a particular item doesn't work with Linux it is far more often
because the maker isn't co-operating than it is because the community
doesn't want it to work.

Supposing you have a fault with your car and you want it fixed but
your mechanic says "can't do it - the car maker won't give us the
parts.  Just won't.  They require you to go to that dealer over
there who will charge you $200 an hour."  Do you say "You are a
lousy mechanic and you can't be taken seriously" or do you say "that
car maker is an idiot and I won't buy that brand of car again"?


Zebee
Re: Using USB Wireless sticks with Linux
#796
Author: Avid Fan
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 23:49
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Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> In aus.computers.linux on Sat, 02 May 2009 23:19:25 GMT
> Avid Fan <user@example.net> wrote:
>> Yes I see your point some information would be useful.
>>
>> OK I am specifically referring to the Telstra 7 Series Next G HSUPA USB 
>> modem made by www.zte.com.au.
> 
> If a particular item doesn't work with Linux it is far more often
> because the maker isn't co-operating than it is because the community
> doesn't want it to work.
> 
> Supposing you have a fault with your car and you want it fixed but
> your mechanic says "can't do it - the car maker won't give us the
> parts.  Just won't.  They require you to go to that dealer over
> there who will charge you $200 an hour."  Do you say "You are a
> lousy mechanic and you can't be taken seriously" or do you say "that
> car maker is an idiot and I won't buy that brand of car again"?
> 
> 
> Zebee

What you say is fine except to my knowledge NONE OF THEM WORK so you 
would have do without a car.

I have emailed the manufacturer

> www.zte.com.au. 


I asked them to make a Linux version available or at least release 
enough  information to allow the Linux community to make their own 
driver.  Maybe some others might like to email them and let them know we 
want mobile wireless broadband too??????

I specifically bought an expensive Samsung laser printer because I heard 
from a news group (possibility this on this news group) that Samsung 
support Linux with drivers.

Samsung CLX-6210 FX  Highly recommended Laser printer.
Re: Using USB Wireless sticks with Linux
#797
Author: Zebee Johnstone
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 01:04
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In aus.computers.linux on Sat, 02 May 2009 23:49:49 GMT
Avid Fan <user@example.net> wrote:
>
> What you say is fine except to my knowledge NONE OF THEM WORK so you 
> would have do without a car.

Dunno about that.  I've had a Huawei wireless USB 3G dongle work
perfectly well with Optus and Exetel (an Optus reseller).

So which ones have you tried?

(and if none of the ones you have tried work still doesn't mean it is
Linux's fault if the suppliers refuse to give the information to the
community.  Put the blame where it belongs.)

Zebee
Re: Using USB Wireless sticks with Linux
#798
Author: Will Kemp
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 06:10
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Avid Fan wrote:
> Will Kemp wrote:
>> Avid Fan wrote:
>>> I think I could convince my work to switch over to Linux if I could get 
>>> the wireless card to work.
>> Which particular wireless card are you referring to?
>>
>>
> Yes I see your point some information would be useful.
> 
> OK I am specifically referring to the Telstra 7 Series Next G HSUPA USB 
> modem made by www.zte.com.au.
> 
> I am running Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04  on a Tossiba satellite dual AMD 64

Well, ZTE make rubbish phones, so i'm not surprised their wireless
dongles don't work with Linux. I was pleasantly surprised the other day
when i plugged a Huawei 3G wireless dongle into my Ubuntu 9.04 laptop
and it just worked - i didn't have to do anything at all, except click
on the network in NetworkManager.

I think the dongle i tried was the e220, but i believe other Huawei
dongles work too.

In general, i find it best to avoid having anything to do with Telstra -
and i'd never consider getting hardware from them unless it was
absolutely unavoidable.


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Re: Using USB Wireless sticks with Linux
#800
Author: Doug Laidlaw
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 17:30
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Zebee Johnstone wrote:

> In aus.computers.linux on Sat, 02 May 2009 23:49:49 GMT
> Avid Fan <user@example.net> wrote:
>>
>> What you say is fine except to my knowledge NONE OF THEM WORK so you
>> would have do without a car.
> 
> Dunno about that.  I've had a Huawei wireless USB 3G dongle work
> perfectly well with Optus and Exetel (an Optus reseller).
> 
> So which ones have you tried?
> 
> (and if none of the ones you have tried work still doesn't mean it is
> Linux's fault if the suppliers refuse to give the information to the
> community.  Put the blame where it belongs.)
> 
> Zebee
I have one from Optus Australia.  I don't know if it would work with Linux, 
but no info on Linux is available.

Doug.
-- 
You can't buy love, but it sure can screw up an economy.
  -- Arnold H. Glasgow.
Re: Using USB Wireless sticks with Linux
#801
Author: Will Kemp
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 20:24
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Doug Laidlaw wrote:
> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> 
>> In aus.computers.linux on Sat, 02 May 2009 23:49:49 GMT
>> Avid Fan <user@example.net> wrote:
>>> What you say is fine except to my knowledge NONE OF THEM WORK so you
>>> would have do without a car.
>> Dunno about that.  I've had a Huawei wireless USB 3G dongle work
>> perfectly well with Optus and Exetel (an Optus reseller).
>>
>> So which ones have you tried?
>>
>> (and if none of the ones you have tried work still doesn't mean it is
>> Linux's fault if the suppliers refuse to give the information to the
>> community.  Put the blame where it belongs.)
>>
>> Zebee
> I have one from Optus Australia.  I don't know if it would work with Linux, 
> but no info on Linux is available.

There's an easy way to find out (assuming you've got a Linux system handy).



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Re: Using USB Wireless sticks with Linux
#802
Author: Zebee Johnstone
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 20:26
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In aus.computers.linux on Wed, 06 May 2009 03:30:41 +1000
Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:
> I have one from Optus Australia.  I don't know if it would work with Linux, 
> but no info on Linux is available.
>


I know the Huaweis work, whether they'll work out of the box or you
need to install Huawei's driver will depend on your distro I suppose,
mainly on how old it is.

(I had it running on Fedora Core 8, I  haven't tried on Centos 5)

If you have a fairly recent distro, then you should be able to use
network manager "mobile broadband" and configure that.

Zebee
Re: Using USB Wireless sticks with Linux
#803
Author: Doug Laidlaw
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 03:18
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Zebee Johnstone wrote:

> In aus.computers.linux on Wed, 06 May 2009 03:30:41 +1000
> Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:
>> I have one from Optus Australia.  I don't know if it would work with
>> Linux, but no info on Linux is available.
>>
> 
> 
> I know the Huaweis work, whether they'll work out of the box or you
> need to install Huawei's driver will depend on your distro I suppose,
> mainly on how old it is.
> 
> (I had it running on Fedora Core 8, I  haven't tried on Centos 5)
> 
> If you have a fairly recent distro, then you should be able to use
> network manager "mobile broadband" and configure that.
> 
> Zebee

I am running Mandriva 2009 Spring.  I was not thinking straight. I tried 
under Wireless and got nowhere.

I tried under GPRS/3G, and it was detected.  The network was "unlisted" and 
available networks under manual setup don't include Australia.

At the moment, the modem has no credits, and we use it only for my wife's XP 
laptop.  I will experiment further next time we buy credits.

Doug.
-- 
They change their climate, not their soul, who run beyond the sea.
   - Horace, Roman poet, 1st c. B.C.
Re: Using USB Wireless sticks with Linux
#807
Author: Doug Laidlaw
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 04:21
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Doug Laidlaw wrote:

> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> 
>> In aus.computers.linux on Wed, 06 May 2009 03:30:41 +1000
>> Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:
>>> I have one from Optus Australia.  I don't know if it would work with
>>> Linux, but no info on Linux is available.
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> I know the Huaweis work, whether they'll work out of the box or you
>> need to install Huawei's driver will depend on your distro I suppose,
>> mainly on how old it is.
>> 
>> (I had it running on Fedora Core 8, I  haven't tried on Centos 5)
>> 
>> If you have a fairly recent distro, then you should be able to use
>> network manager "mobile broadband" and configure that.
>> 
>> Zebee
> 
> I am running Mandriva 2009 Spring.  I was not thinking straight. I tried
> under Wireless and got nowhere.
> 
> I tried under GPRS/3G, and it was detected.  The network was "unlisted"
> and available networks under manual setup don't include Australia.
> 
> At the moment, the modem has no credits, and we use it only for my wife's
> XP
> laptop.  I will experiment further next time we buy credits.
> 
> Doug.

I got that wrong.  It does detect the Optus network, which it then asks me 
to configure manually.  It shows up in my Network Centre as connected, but 
with no credits, I can't test it any further.  As I write, it shows steady 
blue (WCDMA) and cyan (HSPA) LEDs, alternating

Doug.
-- 
Love, even the love of God, is always mediated through persons. [Or wet 
doggy noses :) D.L.]
  - quoted in Parker: "Prayer can Change Your Life."
Re: Using USB Wireless sticks with Linux
#805
Author: Zebee Johnstone
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 04:44
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In aus.computers.linux on Wed, 06 May 2009 13:18:27 +1000
Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:
>
> I am running Mandriva 2009 Spring.  I was not thinking straight. I tried 
> under Wireless and got nowhere.
>

> available networks under manual setup don't include Australia.
>


It is possible that's a Mandriva thing - I don't know how
NetworkManager is configured by distros.

http://mikelward.com/news/2009/02/setting-up-next-g-internet-connection.html
seems to say that Ubuntu can do Telstra.  Maybe pick up a live CD of
that, boot from it, see if you can make it do the USB wireless thing?

Zebee
Re: Using USB Wireless sticks with Linux
#806
Author: Zebee Johnstone
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 04:47
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In aus.computers.linux on Wed, 6 May 2009 04:44:29 +0000 (UTC)
Zebee Johnstone <zebeej@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://mikelward.com/news/2009/02/setting-up-next-g-internet-connection.html
> seems to say that Ubuntu can do Telstra.  Maybe pick up a live CD of
> that, boot from it, see if you can make it do the USB wireless thing?


And because I got distracted, I didn't read all the way to the
bottom...

At the end of that page is a way to see what connection info to use,
via minicom.

So try the things on that page in Mandriva and see if that helps.

Zebee
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