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Darren Reed wrote:
> 
> Post #1
> 
> : - Sparc Classic (sun-4m) headless system. 50 MHz Microsparc CPU, 64 meg
> : RAM, 3.2 gig SCSI disk, cg3 colour framebuffer, type-4 keyboard set, D13W3
> : to HD15 adaptor (for use with PC-style multisync monitor). $895 ono
> 
> Post #2
> 
> : I also have a sparc Classic for sale.
> : It has a 50mhz microsparc with 32 megs of ram,and a seagate 1 gig
> : hardisk, 2 sbus slots and a built in cg3 audio ethernet ect., type 5
> : keyboard mouse and pad.
> 
> : $380.00
> 
> : Add $80 for an extra 32 megs of ram.
> 
> Can someone please explain to me why there is a $400 difference between the
> sale price of these two pieces of hardware when the the only difference is
> 2GB of disk space (after you add the $80 to bring the second upto 64MB) ?
> Oh, I guess you pay more for the older (type 4) keyboard and mouse too...
> I've seen 2nd hand 2GB narrow SCSI drives going for as little as $120 at
> swap meets recently (and that's for Seagate 'cudas too) so if the difference
> was maybe a third of the $400, it wouldn't be so bad.
> 
> This isn't the first time I've seen such disparity in prices here, but it
> just so happens that the posts were both recent enough for a quick and
> easy comparison.
> 
> I'd hate to think that people here are taking advantage of people who
> are hobbiests when it comes to Sun gear by charging premium prices for
> 2nd hand equipment that is barely worth half that.  If the price of #1
> is because it is being resold after being bought for $800+, then the
> person who originally bought it should know better than to pay such
> ridiculous prices for it.  Otherwise....I dunno...am I just missing out
> on something obvious ?
> 
> Darren

OK Here's my appreciation,

Post #1
Extra 32 Mb of RAM.
	Add		$80

3.2 Gb HDD - I find the average is about $75 plus $50 per Mb which puts
3.2 Gb at about $230 and a realistic value for a 1 Gb at about $125.
	Add		$100

Type 4 keyboard. I don't think there is much value difference between
type 4 and type 5... perhaps $20 at most. Anyway I quite LIKE the type 4
as they have a smaller footprint and the power management [1] and audio
buttons aren't much use on a Classic.
	Subtract 	-$20

D13W3 to D14 Adapter. Well I don't know where you would get these in
Australia (maybe BlackBox) but my reference is  http://www.ultraspec.com
where they are $US36 which is about $80 landed in Aus
	Add		$80
			----
	Sub Total	$240
	#2's price	$380
			----
	Total		$620

	Difference	$275

While this difference is still significant it is NOT $400. #1 has left
room to negotiate and #2 has a pretty good price on his gear which would
bring them more into line.

Of course all this is my subjective view on prices as is the view of
both posters. If #1's price is too high, he won't sell till he drops the
price (note: see "$895 ono" He does negotiate, just ask him :), if #2s
price is to low it will sell quickly (and it has); such is the free
market.....Get used to it ;)

As it stands, I have bought stuff from BOTH of these posters, One sells
as-is, complete with coffee stains and facial hair in the crevices and
maybe the odd insignificant bit missing, but otherwise working (I base
this on one item only) while the other has always presented stuff that
is clean and working and is backed up with support. That for me has been
by way of exchange of murchandise, advice and general community support
in the NG. *I have been happy with purchases form BOTH posters as I got
what I paid for.* 

[1] No all Classics/LX's of this erra have power management.

Just my 2c worth......
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Peter Arnold
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