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Re: FS: Sun Sparc Classic, SS-20, and Ultra-1 systems (Sydney)

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From: Craig Dewick
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 00:00
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In <386af8af.0@clarion.carno.net.au> Darren Reed <avalon@caligula.anu.edu.au> writes:

>Post #1

>: - Sparc Classic (sun-4m) headless system. 50 MHz Microsparc CPU, 64 meg
>: RAM, 3.2 gig SCSI disk, cg3 colour framebuffer, type-4 keyboard set, D13W3
>: to HD15 adaptor (for use with PC-style multisync monitor). $895 ono

>Post #2

>: I also have a sparc Classic for sale.
>: It has a 50mhz microsparc with 32 megs of ram,and a seagate 1 gig
>: hardisk, 2 sbus slots and a built in cg3 audio ethernet ect., type 5
>: keyboard mouse and pad.

>: $380.00

>: Add $80 for an extra 32 megs of ram.

>Can someone please explain to me why there is a $400 difference between the
>sale price of these two pieces of hardware when the the only difference is
>2GB of disk space (after you add the $80 to bring the second upto 64MB) ?
>Oh, I guess you pay more for the older (type 4) keyboard and mouse too...
>I've seen 2nd hand 2GB narrow SCSI drives going for as little as $120 at
>swap meets recently (and that's for Seagate 'cudas too) so if the difference
>was maybe a third of the $400, it wouldn't be so bad.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. The Sparc Classic I'm advertising
has more RAM (which is worth about $200 to source from Sun), a bigger disk
(another $100 or so of value because the drive is not very old), and it
comes with a D13W3 to HD15 adaptor (worth $75), which the other one doesn't.
I can't exactly email other people with similar gear to sell and agree on
selling values so there is zero price disparity... 8-)

If you are so worried about price differences, look at PC's for a good
example - they have so many variants that you can never really compare
pricing. Workstation class equipment has highly variable pricing depending
on condition, age, etc.

I set my pricing based on what I think is fair compared with the cost to
import the exact same configuration from the US (taking customs, etc. and
freight into account - don't forget those), and also taking into account
similar equipment sold locally (and not just via online media).

You can't go around and say, to use your example, that a second hand 2.1 gig
disk should cost a flat ammount based on the stuff you see at swap meets,
because that takes no account of it's age, usage history, etc. I throw out
SCSI disks of 2 gig and under fairly regularly because I don't believe they
are good enough to sell, usually because of mechanical or electrical
problems that project to the drives having a very short after-sale service
life. It's bad business to sell a drive which won't last very long in a
workstation class machine because the hardware is being purchased with
reliability as one of the main considerations.

>This isn't the first time I've seen such disparity in prices here, but it
>just so happens that the posts were both recent enough for a quick and
>easy comparison.

Exactly what sort of comparision are you talking about? 

Regards,

Craig.
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From: cd@lios.apana.org.au (Craig Dewick)
Subject: Re: FS: Sun Sparc Classic, SS-20, and Ultra-1 systems (Sydney)
Date: 1999/12/30
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