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On Aug 21, 8:42 am, Sfinx <siegfr...@inbox.com> wrote:
> Rudd giveaway gripes: students slam 'slow' laptops
> August 15, 2011
>
> Less than two years after Kevin Rudd's Labor government started
> handing out laptops to schoolchildren around the country many are
> complaining they are too slow and act as expensive paperweights most
> of the time, writes David Braue.
>
> In 2007 Rudd spun his education revolution into a broadband
> revolution, promising to spend $1 billion to provide a computer with
> high-speed internet access for every student in years 9 to 12.
>
> Like thousands of other year 10 students, Luca Vignando has had his
> NSW government-supplied netbook, provided under Labor's Digital
> Education Revolution (DER) funding, since he began year 9. But it's
> not much use: less than two years down the track, Vignando and his
> peers are finding the units just aren't up to snuff any more.
>
> Microsoft Word and OneNote work OK, but Vignando says bundled
> multimedia applications like Adobe Photoshop, Dreamweaver and video-
> editing tool Premier Elements run at a crawl. Students needing to do
> more than basic text editing often give up and seek out faster
> computers elsewhere.
>
> "They're not the best laptops in the world," he says. "They're slow
> and small, and I notice they have these really good and expensive
> programs on them – but some are so slow that it's hard to use them
> because the laptop can hardly run them. If we have to do photo
> editing, most kids would just use one of the computers at school
> rather than the laptops."
>
> That's a pretty low appraisal of devices that were meant to empower
> NSW students as citizens of the digital world. Yet they've had the
> opposite effect, at least in his Sydney high school, where Lenovo
> ThinkPad Mini 10 netbooks (and comparable units from other years) are
> mainly used for basic entertainment – or not at all – by kids that
> find they're just too much effort for doing real work.
>
> "I personally use it as little as possible – probably 10 minutes a day
> – and most people only use it when they have to," he says. "Everyone
> says they never use them on holidays, and if I'm doing homework at
> home I wouldn't use it unless I've already started working on
> something in it. Teachers know they're pretty bad, and some teachers
> don't even let kids use the laptops any more because they find half
> the kids are just playing games in class anyway."
>
> Ref:http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/rudd-giveaway-gripes-stu...

Typical government fuckups, piss away a shitload of taxpayers money on
photo opportunities and selling the scam, only to hand out
wheelbarrows when what was needed was a one tonne ute. Atom CPUs don't
have the power to do any more than run basic SIMPLE low level apps.
They aren't worth a pinch of shit for image editing and as for video
edits, don't even try.

On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 16:23:43 -0700, farkya hzalle wrote:

> On Aug 21, 8:42 am, Sfinx <siegfr...@inbox.com> wrote:
>> Rudd giveaway gripes: students slam 'slow' laptops August 15, 2011
>>
>> Less than two years after Kevin Rudd's Labor government started handing
>> out laptops to schoolchildren around the country many are complaining
>> they are too slow and act as expensive paperweights most of the time,
>> writes David Braue.
>>
>> In 2007 Rudd spun his education revolution into a broadband revolution,
>> promising to spend $1 billion to provide a computer with high-speed
>> internet access for every student in years 9 to 12.
>>
>> Like thousands of other year 10 students, Luca Vignando has had his NSW
>> government-supplied netbook, provided under Labor's Digital Education
>> Revolution (DER) funding, since he began year 9. But it's not much use:
>> less than two years down the track, Vignando and his peers are finding
>> the units just aren't up to snuff any more.
>>
>> Microsoft Word and OneNote work OK, but Vignando says bundled multimedia
>> applications like Adobe Photoshop, Dreamweaver and video- editing tool
>> Premier Elements run at a crawl. Students needing to do more than basic
>> text editing often give up and seek out faster computers elsewhere.
>>
>> "They're not the best laptops in the world," he says. "They're slow and
>> small, and I notice they have these really good and expensive programs
>> on them – but some are so slow that it's hard to use them because the
>> laptop can hardly run them. If we have to do photo editing, most kids
>> would just use one of the computers at school rather than the laptops."
>>
>> That's a pretty low appraisal of devices that were meant to empower NSW
>> students as citizens of the digital world. Yet they've had the opposite
>> effect, at least in his Sydney high school, where Lenovo ThinkPad Mini
>> 10 netbooks (and comparable units from other years) are mainly used for
>> basic entertainment – or not at all – by kids that find they're just
>> too much effort for doing real work.
>>
>> "I personally use it as little as possible – probably 10 minutes a day
>> – and most people only use it when they have to," he says. "Everyone
>> says they never use them on holidays, and if I'm doing homework at home
>> I wouldn't use it unless I've already started working on something in
>> it. Teachers know they're pretty bad, and some teachers don't even let
>> kids use the laptops any more because they find half the kids are just
>> playing games in class anyway."
>>
>> Ref:http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/rudd-giveaway-gripes-stu...
> 
> Typical government fuckups, piss away a shitload of taxpayers money on
> photo opportunities and selling the scam, only to hand out wheelbarrows
> when what was needed was a one tonne ute. Atom CPUs don't have the power
> to do any more than run basic SIMPLE low level apps. They aren't worth a
> pinch of shit for image editing and as for video edits, don't even try.

Bullshit, they were meant for basic computer use and not high-end image
processing.

This is just another Aussie whinge by blaming someone else for something
that people could do themselves.

-- 
Regards, David.

David Clayton
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a
measure of how many questions you have.

On Aug 21, 12:24 pm, David Clayton <dcstarbox-
use...@NOSPAM.yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 16:23:43 -0700, farkya hzalle wrote:
> > On Aug 21, 8:42 am, Sfinx <siegfr...@inbox.com> wrote:
> >> Rudd giveaway gripes: students slam 'slow' laptops August 15, 2011
>
> >> Less than two years after Kevin Rudd's Labor government started handing
> >> out laptops to schoolchildren around the country many are complaining
> >> they are too slow and act as expensive paperweights most of the time,
> >> writes David Braue.
>
> >> In 2007 Rudd spun his education revolution into a broadband revolution,
> >> promising to spend $1 billion to provide a computer with high-speed
> >> internet access for every student in years 9 to 12.
>
> >> Like thousands of other year 10 students, Luca Vignando has had his NSW
> >> government-supplied netbook, provided under Labor's Digital Education
> >> Revolution (DER) funding, since he began year 9. But it's not much use:
> >> less than two years down the track, Vignando and his peers are finding
> >> the units just aren't up to snuff any more.
>
> >> Microsoft Word and OneNote work OK, but Vignando says bundled multimedia
> >> applications like Adobe Photoshop, Dreamweaver and video- editing tool
> >> Premier Elements run at a crawl. Students needing to do more than basic
> >> text editing often give up and seek out faster computers elsewhere.
>
> >> "They're not the best laptops in the world," he says. "They're slow and
> >> small, and I notice they have these really good and expensive programs
> >> on them – but some are so slow that it's hard to use them because the
> >> laptop can hardly run them. If we have to do photo editing, most kids
> >> would just use one of the computers at school rather than the laptops."
>
> >> That's a pretty low appraisal of devices that were meant to empower NSW
> >> students as citizens of the digital world. Yet they've had the opposite
> >> effect, at least in his Sydney high school, where Lenovo ThinkPad Mini
> >> 10 netbooks (and comparable units from other years) are mainly used for
> >> basic entertainment – or not at all – by kids that find they're just
> >> too much effort for doing real work.
>
> >> "I personally use it as little as possible – probably 10 minutes a day
> >> – and most people only use it when they have to," he says. "Everyone
> >> says they never use them on holidays, and if I'm doing homework at home
> >> I wouldn't use it unless I've already started working on something in
> >> it. Teachers know they're pretty bad, and some teachers don't even let
> >> kids use the laptops any more because they find half the kids are just
> >> playing games in class anyway."
>
> >> Ref:http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/rudd-giveaway-gripes-stu...
>
> > Typical government fuckups, piss away a shitload of taxpayers money on
> > photo opportunities and selling the scam, only to hand out wheelbarrows
> > when what was needed was a one tonne ute. Atom CPUs don't have the power
> > to do any more than run basic SIMPLE low level apps. They aren't worth a
> > pinch of shit for image editing and as for video edits, don't even try.
>
> Bullshit, they were meant for basic computer use and not high-end image
> processing.
>
Proof?

On 21/08/2011 12:24 PM, David Clayton wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 16:23:43 -0700, farkya hzalle wrote:
>
>> On Aug 21, 8:42 am, Sfinx<siegfr...@inbox.com>  wrote:
>>> Rudd giveaway gripes: students slam 'slow' laptops August 15, 2011
>>>
>>> Less than two years after Kevin Rudd's Labor government started handing
>>> out laptops to schoolchildren around the country many are complaining
>>> they are too slow and act as expensive paperweights most of the time,
>>> writes David Braue.
>>>
>>> In 2007 Rudd spun his education revolution into a broadband revolution,
>>> promising to spend $1 billion to provide a computer with high-speed
>>> internet access for every student in years 9 to 12.
>>>
>>> Like thousands of other year 10 students, Luca Vignando has had his NSW
>>> government-supplied netbook, provided under Labor's Digital Education
>>> Revolution (DER) funding, since he began year 9. But it's not much use:
>>> less than two years down the track, Vignando and his peers are finding
>>> the units just aren't up to snuff any more.
>>>
>>> Microsoft Word and OneNote work OK, but Vignando says bundled multimedia
>>> applications like Adobe Photoshop, Dreamweaver and video- editing tool
>>> Premier Elements run at a crawl. Students needing to do more than basic
>>> text editing often give up and seek out faster computers elsewhere.
>>>
>>> "They're not the best laptops in the world," he says. "They're slow and
>>> small, and I notice they have these really good and expensive programs
>>> on them – but some are so slow that it's hard to use them because the
>>> laptop can hardly run them. If we have to do photo editing, most kids
>>> would just use one of the computers at school rather than the laptops."
>>>
>>> That's a pretty low appraisal of devices that were meant to empower NSW
>>> students as citizens of the digital world. Yet they've had the opposite
>>> effect, at least in his Sydney high school, where Lenovo ThinkPad Mini
>>> 10 netbooks (and comparable units from other years) are mainly used for
>>> basic entertainment – or not at all – by kids that find they're just
>>> too much effort for doing real work.
>>>
>>> "I personally use it as little as possible – probably 10 minutes a day
>>> – and most people only use it when they have to," he says. "Everyone
>>> says they never use them on holidays, and if I'm doing homework at home
>>> I wouldn't use it unless I've already started working on something in
>>> it. Teachers know they're pretty bad, and some teachers don't even let
>>> kids use the laptops any more because they find half the kids are just
>>> playing games in class anyway."
>>>
>>> Ref:http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/rudd-giveaway-gripes-stu...
>>
>> Typical government fuckups, piss away a shitload of taxpayers money on
>> photo opportunities and selling the scam, only to hand out wheelbarrows
>> when what was needed was a one tonne ute. Atom CPUs don't have the power
>> to do any more than run basic SIMPLE low level apps. They aren't worth a
>> pinch of shit for image editing and as for video edits, don't even try.
>
> Bullshit, they were meant for basic computer use and not high-end image
> processing.
  Failing on delivery being hardly able to run the installed programs at 
a basic level
>
> This is just another Aussie whinge by blaming someone else for something
> that people could do themselves.
  Rubbish
it is  a valid complaint
>


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In article <pan.2011.08.21.02.24.28.348393@NOSPAM.yahoo.com.au>,
 David Clayton <dcstarbox-usenet@NOSPAM.yahoo.com.au> wrote:
.
> >> .
> > 
> > Typical government fuckups, piss away a shitload of taxpayers money on
> > photo opportunities and selling the scam, only to hand out wheelbarrows
> > when what was needed was a one tonne ute. Atom CPUs don't have the power
> > to do any more than run basic SIMPLE low level apps. They aren't worth a
> > pinch of shit for image editing and as for video edits, don't even try.
> 
> Bullshit, they were meant for basic computer use and not high-end image
> processing.
> 
> This is just another Aussie whinge by blaming someone else for something
> that people could do themselves.

Actually the problems are far worse than just being slow.  The screen is 
so small using it for any length of time produces headaches, it cant be 
loaded with any other applications by the students, and they block out 
access to hundreds of websites that students need to access to complete 
school assignments

The end result is that they are simply a waste, and parents still have 
to buy a computer for the kids to do their schoolwork on.

My grand daughter says that none of the kids in years 10,11,and 12 at 
her school bother to use them now - but maybe a few still do and are too 
shy admit that.

Another typical Labor stuffup.  It is amazing that of all the programs 
and ideas Labor has tried to implement not one single project has been 
succesful

David