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Article #74Re: How can the Libs win when they can't even lie straight in bed?
From: jg
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 02:09
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 02:09
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atom wrote: > DM <d-moss@adfa.edu.au> writes: > >>> Mr Hunt says it should not be left to the insulation industry to >>> produce the proof. > >> Why not? Even here in aus.politics, if you make an accusation, you are >> expected to provide proof. >> Making stuff up only gets you laughed at. > > Garrett's position seems to be "I'm sceptical that this material has > actually been imported or used. But, if it has, I'm prepared to > act to prevent it happening, so give me an actual example so I > can see how it happened". TYou can hardly blame him; the insulation > program seems to have some major dodginess in its implementaton, and > those slinging mud obviously have a vested interest in doing so. > > In fact, even if the claim proves to be true, and non-conforming > insulation was imported from China, how can that be Garrett's fault? > Surely it's a Customs matter that material was illegally imported. > > And the four guys who were killed were not killed by dodgy insulation; > they were killed because of unsafe work practices. How is that > Garrett's fault? All he did was part-pay for the insulation to be > installed. > > Atom Egoyan > Melbourne Australia > > Insulation has always had that reputation. Making it free was probably the govt's only real mistake, you always could get crappy material installed by cowboys. I am unconvinced that insulation does much good, environmentally. People will still use heaters and coolers, once they are on any differences in energy use because of insulation is marginal at best.
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