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Article #75Re: How can the Libs win when they can't even lie straight in bed?
From: DM
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 03:00
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 03:00
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On Feb 14, 12:09 pm, jg <j...@nospam.com> wrote: > atom wrote: > > DM <d-m...@adfa.edu.au> writes: > > >>> Mr Hunt says it should not be left to the insulation industry to > >>> produce the proof. > > >> Why not? Even here in aus.politics, if you make an accusation, you are > >> expected to provide proof. > >> Making stuff up only gets you laughed at. > > > Garrett's position seems to be "I'm sceptical that this material has > > actually been imported or used. But, if it has, I'm prepared to > > act to prevent it happening, so give me an actual example so I > > can see how it happened". TYou can hardly blame him; the insulation > > program seems to have some major dodginess in its implementaton, and > > those slinging mud obviously have a vested interest in doing so. > > > In fact, even if the claim proves to be true, and non-conforming > > insulation was imported from China, how can that be Garrett's fault? > > Surely it's a Customs matter that material was illegally imported. > > > And the four guys who were killed were not killed by dodgy insulation; > > they were killed because of unsafe work practices. How is that > > Garrett's fault? All he did was part-pay for the insulation to be > > installed. > > > Atom Egoyan > > Melbourne Australia > > Insulation has always had that reputation. Making it free was probably > the govt's only real mistake, you always could get crappy material > installed by cowboys. > > I am unconvinced that insulation does much good, environmentally. People > will still use heaters and coolers, once they are on any differences in > energy use because of insulation is marginal at best. I reduced my energy bill be over 50% by installing insulation. It paid for itself in under 5 years. DM
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