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CONTINUE FROM MY PREVIOUS POST....

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I am thinking of the below setup for my TOTAL comms needs:

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ADSL 512k, 12 GB with AAPT $39 + $29 for land line.I checked out the top =
12 companies and this rates well. This plan is good because 1. no setup =
fee, 2. free modem (i suspect a cheap one), 3. one month contract, there =
after I can leave. This will give me time to 'research' VOIP service =
providers and wireless router/modems/voip.

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Q1a: I heard telstra have a landline for $19, is it worth going across ? =
what are the call costs like ?

Q1b: I believe the free AAPT modem has one port, can I double that =
through some type of 'adaptor'  I can can get two laptop on it? (this is =
temporary until I get a wireless router- see below)

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Currently I would use cap calls for national i think $2 for 2 hours, =
that's the purpose of going for VOIP, I also using calling cards for =
USA/ EUROPE/M.EAST

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I am considering VOIPstunt which I have been told is great for overseas =
calls. I am considering GoTalk for National calls - I believe 14c for =
prepaid no monthly fee.=20

Q2. Is there something better then VOIPstudent (software like skype and =
you buy credit from them)?

Q3. Anything else other than GoTalk or MyNetFone ?

Q4. What's the best calling card - I currently use Oasis calling card =
which is good for Europe / Middle East?

Q5  I would like to make VOIP calls ie outgoing ? what's the advantage =
of VOIP incoming ?

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I am thinking about Billion 7404VGP which is ranked well in APC =
computing mag - I need it for wireless net connection for 2 laptops and =
one wireless pocket pc (O2 XDA 2s).=20

Q6 . I would like to make VOIP calls through  my current standard =
cordless phone and receive my landline calls through the same hand set. =
Is this possible ?

Q7. There's one upper Billion model ? What makes it different/ better ?

Q8a. Is there an alternative to the Billion that you can recommend ?

Q8b. Will all routers work with all VOIP providers eg the Billion =
7404VGP

Q9. Where's the cheapest store - retail or online to buy this kinda =
stuff ?

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Q10. I would also like to use VOIP over my wireless connection through =
my Pocket PC, is this possible ?

Also I have been on whirlpool...plenty of info will continue research =
when I get my ADSL connection up (which will be soon)

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I currently use Vodephone $49 cap and my partner uses $10 recharge on =
isim. Vodaphone have promised me a free 'loyalty' phone since I have =
been with them for 12-13 monthes. I hope to get this phone and move =
across to Optus which provide similar rates (Q11. I think - is this =
correct ?) plus 50minutes overseas calls, as opposed to vodaphones 20 =
minutes overseas calls. Optus give you the chance to register 5 optus =
numbers to make free 5 minute call to these numbers. These numbers can =
be changed once a month. My partner will move across to optus as well =
and use the $30 for 6months recharge. That way I can make the cheap =
calls

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Q12. What do you think of this for a mobile phone solution.

Q13. Is there ***ANYTHING*** I haven't considered ? I appreciate your =
help and maybe others will benefit ? (I hope).=20

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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message =
news:4m0jnoF3pch1U1@individual.net...
> Sammy Jnr <Knight4success@yahoo.com> wrote
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>> I currently use dial up and am looking into getting ADSL.
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>> A package deal would be nice: landline, ADSL and voip or each =
separately -=20
>> whatever gets me the best deal. 512K download 10-20GB,
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> There isnt a lot in it price wise with that so far. I still
> like iinet but it isnt as good value as it once was.
>=20
>> unlimited download over off-peak would be great.
>=20
> That chops back the choices much more and you end up
> with much more marginal operations like exetel and dodo.
>=20
> May be better to separate the voip from the rest, but that depends
> on how you plan to use the viop, whether you even care about incoming,
> or just need outgoing calls to be voip, and whether you want to pay
> a fixed monthly charge for your voip, and whether you ever call =
outside
> the capital citys and mobiles.
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>> Also, what hardware would be recommended for the above combination =
including=20
>> wireless option for 2 laptops, pocket pc and VOIP on the same router =
to=20
>> receive normal calls and make VOIP calls on a standard cordless =
phone.
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> That last limits your hardware choices considerably.
>=20
> Do you care about a fixed cost per month for voip ?
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>> Suggestions would be appreciated.... thanks!=20
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<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>I am =
thinking of the=20
below setup for my TOTAL comms =
needs:<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p><FONT face=3DArial=20
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<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>ADSL 512k, =
12 GB with=20
AAPT $39 + $29 for land line.I checked out the top 12 companies and this =
rates=20
well. This plan is good because 1. no setup fee, 2. free modem (i =
suspect a=20
cheap one), 3. one month contract, there after I can leave. This will =
give me=20
time to <?xml:namespace prefix =3D st1 ns =3D=20
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:PersonName=20
w:st=3D"on">'</st1:PersonName>research<st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">'</st1:PersonName>=20
VOIP service providers and wireless=20
router/modems/voip.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Q1a: I =
heard telstra=20
have a landline for $19, is it worth going across ? what are the call =
costs like=20
?<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Q1b: I =
believe the free=20
AAPT modem has one port, can I double that through some type of =
<st1:PersonName=20
w:st=3D"on">'</st1:PersonName>adaptor<st1:PersonName=20
w:st=3D"on">'</st1:PersonName><SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; =
</SPAN>I can=20
can get two laptop on it? (this is temporary until I get a wireless =
router- see=20
below)<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Currently =
I would use=20
cap calls for national i think $2 for 2 hours, that<st1:PersonName=20
w:st=3D"on">'</st1:PersonName>s the purpose of going for VOIP, I also =
using=20
calling cards for USA/ EUROPE/M.EAST<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>I am =
considering=20
VOIPstunt which I have been told is great for overseas calls. I am =
considering=20
GoTalk for National calls - I believe 14c for prepaid no monthly fee.=20
<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Q2. Is =
there something=20
better then VOIPstudent (software like skype and you buy credit from=20
them)?<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Q3. =
Anything else other=20
than GoTalk or MyNetFone ?<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Q4. =
What<st1:PersonName=20
w:st=3D"on">'</st1:PersonName>s the best calling card - I currently use =
Oasis=20
calling card which is good for Europe / <st1:place w:st=3D"on">Middle=20
East</st1:place>?<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Q5<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I would like to make VOIP =
calls ie=20
outgoing ? what<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">'</st1:PersonName>s the =
advantage of=20
VOIP incoming ?<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>I am =
thinking about=20
Billion 7404VGP which is ranked well in APC computing mag - I need it =
for=20
wireless net connection for 2 laptops and one wireless pocket pc (O2 XDA =
2s).=20
<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Q6 . I =
would like to=20
make VOIP calls through<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; =
</SPAN>my current=20
standard cordless phone and receive my landline calls through the same =
hand set.=20
Is this possible ?<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Q7. =
There<st1:PersonName=20
w:st=3D"on">'</st1:PersonName>s one upper Billion model ? What makes it =
different/=20
better ?<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Q8a. Is =
there an=20
alternative to the Billion that you can recommend=20
?<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Q8b. Will =
all routers=20
work with all VOIP providers eg the Billion=20
7404VGP<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Q9. =
Where<st1:PersonName=20
w:st=3D"on">'</st1:PersonName>s the cheapest store - retail or online to =
buy this=20
kinda stuff ?<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Q10. I =
would also like=20
to use VOIP over my wireless connection through my Pocket PC, is this =
possible=20
?<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Also I =
have been on=20
whirlpool...plenty of info will continue research when I get my ADSL =
connection=20
up (which will be soon)<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>I =
currently use=20
Vodephone $49 cap and my partner uses $10 recharge on isim. Vodaphone =
have=20
promised me a free <st1:PersonName=20
w:st=3D"on">'</st1:PersonName>loyalty<st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">'</st1:PersonName>=20
phone since I have been with them for 12-13 monthes. I hope to get this =
phone=20
and move across to Optus which provide similar rates (Q11. I think - is =
this=20
correct ?) plus 50minutes overseas calls, as opposed to vodaphones 20 =
minutes=20
overseas calls. Optus give you the chance to register 5 optus numbers to =
make=20
free 5 minute call to these numbers. These numbers can be changed once a =
month.=20
My partner will move across to optus as well and use the $30 for 6months =

recharge. That way I can make the cheap=20
calls<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Q12. What =
do you think=20
of this for a mobile phone solution.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Q13. Is =
there=20
***ANYTHING*** I haven<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">'</st1:PersonName>t =
considered ?=20
I appreciate your help and maybe others will benefit ? (I hope).=20
<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Rod Speed" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&gt; wrote in=20
message </FONT><A href=3D"news:4m0jnoF3pch1U1@individual.net"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>news:4m0jnoF3pch1U1@individual.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =

size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; Sammy Jnr =
&lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:Knight4success@yahoo.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Knight4success@yahoo.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&gt;=20
wrote<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; I currently use dial up and am looking into =
getting=20
ADSL.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; A package deal would be nice: landline, ADSL =
and voip=20
or each separately - <BR>&gt;&gt; whatever gets me the best deal. 512K =
download=20
10-20GB,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; There isnt a lot in it price wise with that so =
far. I=20
still<BR>&gt; like iinet but it isnt as good value as it once =
was.<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt; unlimited download over off-peak would be great.<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;=20
That chops back the choices much more and you end up<BR>&gt; with much =
more=20
marginal operations like exetel and dodo.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; May be better =
to=20
separate the voip from the rest, but that depends<BR>&gt; on how you =
plan to use=20
the viop, whether you even care about incoming,<BR>&gt; or just need =
outgoing=20
calls to be voip, and whether you want to pay<BR>&gt; a fixed monthly =
charge for=20
your voip, and whether you ever call outside<BR>&gt; the capital citys =
and=20
mobiles.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; Also, what hardware would be recommended =
for the=20
above combination including <BR>&gt;&gt; wireless option for 2 laptops, =
pocket=20
pc and VOIP on the same router to <BR>&gt;&gt; receive normal calls and =
make=20
VOIP calls on a standard cordless phone.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; That last =
limits your=20
hardware choices considerably.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Do you care about a =
fixed cost=20
per month for voip ?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; Suggestions would be =
appreciated....=20
thanks! <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;</FONT></BODY></HTML>

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