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Re: landline, VOIP and ADSL query + NEW info + Q's: wireless router, mobile phones TOTAL COMMs SOLUTION (maybe)

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From: Rod Speed
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:54
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Sammy Jnr <Knight4success@yahoo.com> wrote:

> CONTINUE FROM MY PREVIOUS POST....

NO NEED TO SHOUT, WE HAVENT GONE DEAF YET.

> I am thinking of the below setup for my TOTAL comms needs:

> ADSL 512k, 12 GB with AAPT $39 + $29 for land line.
> I checked out the top 12 companies and this rates well.

It aint that great when compared with exetel or dodo.

> This plan is good because 1. no setup fee,

Doesnt make any sense to concentrate on that. Its the
total cost over say the first year that matters a lot more.

> 2. free modem (i suspect a cheap one),

Ditto, a decent router doesnt cost a lot.

> 3. one month contract, there after I can leave.

Mad to concentrate on that too.

> This will give me time to 'research' VOIP service
> providers and wireless router/modems/voip.

Makes more sense to check that stuff first.

> Q1a: I heard telstra have a landline for $19,

Yes, HomeLine Budget.

> is it worth going across ?

Yes, if you're using voip.

> what are the call costs like ?

Pretty poor, but irrelevant with voip.

> Q1b: I believe the free AAPT modem has one port,
> can I double that through some type of 'adaptor'

Nope, you can use ICS tho.

Makes a lot more sense to get a decent cheap router.

> I can can get two laptop on it? (this is temporary
> until I get a wireless router- see below)

Makes more sense to get that from the start.

> Currently I would use cap calls for national i think $2 for 2 hours,

Quite a few do quite a bit better than that.

> that's the purpose of going for VOIP, I also
> using calling cards for USA/ EUROPE/M.EAST

> I am considering VOIPstunt which I have been told is
> great for overseas calls. I am considering GoTalk for
> National calls - I believe 14c for prepaid no monthly fee.

How long are the national calls on average ?

> Q2. Is there something better then VOIPstudent
> (software like skype and you buy credit from them)?

Yes, depending on the detail of what you want to do.

> Q3. Anything else other than GoTalk or MyNetFone ?

Yep, heaps of alternatives.

> Q4. What's the best calling card - I currently use Oasis
> calling card which is good for Europe / Middle East?

> Q5  I would like to make VOIP calls ie outgoing ?
> what's the advantage of VOIP incoming ?

Nothing really in your situation. Its main advantage is with
cable instead of adsl, you dont have any line rent at all.

> I am thinking about Billion 7404VGP which
> is ranked well in APC computing mag -

It doesnt do that well in whirlpool, still quite buggy.

> I need it for wireless net connection for 2 laptops
> and one wireless pocket pc (O2 XDA 2s).

There's quite a few better value and less buggy wireless voip routers around.

> Q6 . I would like to make VOIP calls through  my current
> standard cordless phone and receive my landline calls
> through the same hand set. Is this possible ?

Yes.

> Q7. There's one upper Billion model ?
> What makes it different/ better ?

Less buggy.

> Q8a. Is there an alternative to the Billion that you can recommend ?

Yes. If you dont mind a fixed charge per month, there is a lot to
be said for just about any decent wireless router and Engin voip.

> Q8b. Will all routers work with all VOIP
> providers eg the Billion 7404VGP

Not quite all voip providers, but certainly the bulk of them.

> Q9. Where's the cheapest store - retail or online to buy this kinda stuff ?

Varys with what you actually want to buy. I normally use staticice to decide 
that.

Engin boxes can be cheap on ebay.

> Q10. I would also like to use VOIP over my wireless
> connection through my Pocket PC, is this possible ?

Yes.

> Also I have been on whirlpool...plenty of info will continue
> research when I get my ADSL connection up (which will be soon)

> I currently use Vodephone $49 cap and my partner uses $10 recharge
> on isim. Vodaphone have promised me a free 'loyalty' phone since I have
> been with them for 12-13 monthes. I hope to get this phone and move
> across to Optus which provide similar rates (Q11. I think - is this
> correct ?) plus 50minutes overseas calls, as opposed to vodaphones 20
> minutes overseas calls. Optus give you the chance to register 5 optus
> numbers to make free 5 minute call to these numbers. These numbers
> can be changed once a month. My partner will move across to optus as
> well and use the $30 for 6months recharge. That way I can make the
> cheap calls

> Q12. What do you think of this for a mobile phone solution.

Hard to say since you dont say anything about how you use it.

> Q13. Is there ***ANYTHING*** I haven't considered ?

Yes, terrorists may blow up anything you decide to sign up for.

ASIO may decide that you are a terrorist too, so it likely wouldnt
be a great idea to sign up for adsl involving 24 month contracts etc.

> I appreciate your help and maybe others will benefit ? (I hope).


> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4m0jnoF3pch1U1@individual.net...
>> Sammy Jnr <Knight4success@yahoo.com> wrote
>>
>>> I currently use dial up and am looking into getting ADSL.
>>
>>> A package deal would be nice: landline, ADSL and voip or each
>>> separately - whatever gets me the best deal. 512K download 10-20GB,
>>
>> There isnt a lot in it price wise with that so far. I still
>> like iinet but it isnt as good value as it once was.
>>
>>> unlimited download over off-peak would be great.
>>
>> That chops back the choices much more and you end up
>> with much more marginal operations like exetel and dodo.
>>
>> May be better to separate the voip from the rest, but that depends
>> on how you plan to use the viop, whether you even care about
>> incoming, or just need outgoing calls to be voip, and whether you
>> want to pay
>> a fixed monthly charge for your voip, and whether you ever call
>> outside the capital citys and mobiles.
>>
>>> Also, what hardware would be recommended for the above combination
>>> including wireless option for 2 laptops, pocket pc and VOIP on the
>>> same router to receive normal calls and make VOIP calls on a
>>> standard cordless phone.
>>
>> That last limits your hardware choices considerably.
>>
>> Do you care about a fixed cost per month for voip ?
>>
>>> Suggestions would be appreciated.... thanks! 
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Subject: Re: landline, VOIP and ADSL query + NEW info + Q's: wireless router, mobile phones TOTAL COMMs SOLUTION (maybe)
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