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tinman@home.com wrote in message <3759BD7E.11D3C3CA@home.com>...
:______tinman start______
:Hi  Dan:
:
:I am thinking about your comments on anger towards
:abstract art.
:
:I am going down a divided staircase on the down
:side and someone is coming up towards me. How do I
:feel? Does it matter that they are going up the
:down staircase? So it's a bit crowded and they
:have to push their way up. Do I want to expand
:myself and make it harder for them to pass me?
:They are doing something that I was taught not to
:do. I was taught the social rules, why should they
:get away with breaking them.
:
:How many steps away from road rage am I?
:
:Let us assume that there is a certain quantity of
:anger in my personality and that anger is composed
:of other bits of anger which have rotten together
:and  turned into an anger comet. That anger comet
:is looking for something to hit. If that anger
:comet is given a socially acceptable target then
:it will head head right for it.
:
: Anger is endemic. It looks for an outlet that the
:group (to which the angry member belongs, and that
:can be an imagined group) will accept as an
:attribute of membership.
:
:I have not told my siblings that I explore
:abstract art concepts, they have not seen my work
:in 20 years. It was a few years prior to my
:fathers death that I finally managed to drag him
:into the 20th century, but he had a classical
:education and I got to him through poetic
:metaphor. My siblings dismiss his last work as
:strange. They eliminate it from their minds and
:are ready to attack anyone who leans towards the
:abstract. It's interesting that they are also anti
:gay.
:
: At my sisters funeral one of them walked up to me
:and said "I hope you don't do this abstract art
:stuff". I said "no", in my mind the funeral
:parlour is not a war zone.
:
:have fun: keith
:
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:
:Dan Fox wrote:
:>
:> Quo Vadis <ubique@somewhere.in.cosmos> wrote:
:> > In article <19990603154542.664$5M@newsreader.com>, Dan Fox
:>
:> I don't know if it's simplicity - or that the art is
non-representational.
:> Many people seem to have a problem with art that doesn't faithfully copy
:> the outside world, or require traditional drawing skills (a least not in
:> evidence to them). They have grown up with a fixed notion of what art is,
:> and anything else is off limits. I have had people react with anger to
:> my work, and also become emotionally upset (when they've seen it in
:> galleries). I think that is because it assaults their expectations, hints
:> at worlds they don't understand, etc.
:>
:> I've found that engineers (like peter nelson) are inevitably realist
:> painters; I think it goes with the mental set.
:>
:> One major difference in the two camps: in general, abstract artists are
:> much more admiring of good figurative art than figurative artists of
:> abstraction. I personally like good art, regardless of the form. I think
:> that the qualitative difference lies here but will have to think about it
:> more.
:>
:> People like Mani just follow their agenda pretty mechanically, it seems.
I
:> don't think the comments of the psycho fringe have anything to do with
art.
:> They are there to make trouble; that's their kick. If they cant do it
there
:> they'll do it elsewhere (and do).
:>
:> I'll think some more about this. I'm hoping for more posts on the site,
:> both pro and con.
:>
:> >
:> > I am starting to notice something about the people who can and cannot
:> > cope with the sort of abstract art that Dan paints ... it seems the
:> > ability to accept *simplicity* is frightening to many and that produces
:> > hostility. To create simplicity goes against everything we are
:> > programmed for, as twentieth century *beings*. A simple mark or line;
:> > non crowded spaces; elementary forms; monochrome images - not easy for
:> > many to take on board but one hell of an achievement to anyone who can
:> > successfully produce it under the pressures of this world we have
:> > created.
:>
:> --
:> Dan
:>
:> 'The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.' - Blake
:> 'Ich bin ein Artsy Fartzy.' - Dan